Visualising, how to? Options

I've been wondering what to explain to myself really. When we are born we know nothing about using the mind, as we grow older we visualize certain things. It's all there when we need it, we just have to want to do so. Although thats the basic stuff really. For example if anyone else see's this stuff or not I have no idea, asked a friend and mother and they dont seem to do so, but it's what I would call the spiritual, scientists probably think of it as dark matter, it's the gray bitty stuff that reminds me of dust. I know it's different for everyone but those who are born spiritually aware would have it there. Saying that though, if anyone has been to the etheric then they would also see this other stuff almost twinkling in the sunlight, colord blue white and yellow. It's down to perception of reality, most people only have the basics, what you see when you remember, has anyone else noticed a flat color border around their memory window?

What do you see though and how would you go about visualising something in that space / with it?

This post has been edited by Coffee: Oct 30 2006, 05:13 PM

I’m with Acid09 on this one. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. The fact that you yourself know what you yourself are talking about is no surprise. What is a surprise is that you go immediately on the defensive and attack Acid09 instead of actually trying to engage.

That being said:

You say: We remember and think in a standard place in or around the head, which is what everyone can do. Saying that though, most people can visualise other imagery and place it anywhere around them they want to, so if you wanted to visualize a new garden where the old one is then you could but this would be something more difficult. However things like visualizing astrally or spiritually are more difficult especially spiritually.

While the brain is the processing house of all this information, I do not believe that either thinking or memory is especially localised in the head. I do believe the concept of Ego is constructed in our head and therefore in our ego-centric culture we confuse the head as being the centre of all consciousness. (Talking from the heart is no poetic figure of speech.)

However in your post you *seem* to be talking about visualisation which is indeed centred in the head. I don’t really understand though if you are asking a question or stating your perception.

At first I thought you were talking about the process of taking an internal visualisation and projecting it outwards, as in the building of angel forms or similar processes used in some forms of Ritual, but now I’m not sure.

If you are asking a question, could you possibly rephrase it into one sentence, for those of us who can only be *bothered* to read your post 5 times. If you are making a point then I am sorry but I just don’t get it.

I’m with Acid09 on this one. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. The fact that you yourself know what you yourself are talking about is no surprise. What is a surprise is that you go immediately on the defensive and attack Acid09 instead of actually trying to engage.

That being said:

You say: We remember and think in a standard place in or around the head, which is what everyone can do. Saying that though, most people can visualise other imagery and place it anywhere around them they want to, so if you wanted to visualize a new garden where the old one is then you could but this would be something more difficult. However things like visualizing astrally or spiritually are more difficult especially spiritually.

While the brain is the processing house of all this information, I do not believe that either thinking or memory is especially localised in the head. I do believe the concept of Ego is constructed in our head and therefore in our ego-centric culture we confuse the head as being the centre of all consciousness. (Talking from the heart is no poetic figure of speech.)

However in your post you *seem* to be talking about visualisation which is indeed centred in the head. I don’t really understand though if you are asking a question or stating your perception.

At first I thought you were talking about the process of taking an internal visualisation and projecting it outwards, as in the building of angel forms or similar processes used in some forms of Ritual, but now I’m not sure.

If you are asking a question, could you possibly rephrase it into one sentence, for those of us who can only be *bothered* to read your post 5 times. If you are making a point then I am sorry but I just don’t get it.

Thanks for the posts from the both of you. I didn't actually mean to get defensive about this, the word obviously did this but then... If you could please do so again would be more what im meaning about being bothered sorry. From what you've said about this though may not be what I was meaning. All im trying to do is get different points of view on what we see or can imagine, as we all see differently from what we've though or been through.
When we think our mind does so about anything we want in any way we want, so all you would have to do is start to do so and it will happen. Although saying that though i've noticed for example something like thinking spiritually is more of a challenge, as we have to be able to think within a certain space if you like, although im not too sure how to describe this to you.

Also from what i've said, most people seems to believe that the air shows as nothing, where as I see many differences from my experience. So im asking... What do you see? About anything at all to do with the mind.

Thanks.