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post Nov 1 2006, 12:22 AM
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What are your opinions on it? Does the drug induced state help/hinder your grasp on magick, or both? I've thought about if it would alter your ability to grasp energy, yet at the same time, could it help you become more aware of the surroundings, or your self-conscious? So what are the opinions, or facts on this subject?


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The main problem with drugs is that they act like short cuts. You said it yourself you didn't even need to concentrate to see auras. Which is precisely a big con to using drugs for magickal goals. I would only suggest the use of any mind altering substances in magick if the practitioner has already had plenty of experience without drugs or is using under the guidance of somebody who is advanced with magick and knows the proper procedure. Another issue with drugs is that one needs to have a real understanding of its affects and what doses to take to induce certain states of mind. On top of that there are many drugs that are addictive and otherwise unhealthy to use repeatedly. The main reason why I say a person be advanced prior to mixing drugs with magick is because if one already knows what to expect they are not as easily suggestive to stimuli. Sometimes people claim to have spiritual experiences when in reality its just in their head. With the execption of stuff like alcohol, pot, mushrooms, x and lsd I don't advocate or condone the use of drugs mixed with magick unless the practioner knows what they are doing. And even then the drugs listed should be used with caution and in moderation. Pot, x and lsd can all be laced. x and lsd sold to people on the streets is many times not really the drug they are suppose to be. And mushrooms can be some poisonous variety some dude pulled from his backyard.

If one insists on experimenting with drugs always know what drug(s) will be involved and always use lower doses to start and gradually increase the amount until the desired high is induced. For example, lsd, try one hit of acid and see how it affects you and after an hour possibly try another, depending on how you feel. In all honesty in the case of acid, unless you use it often, if two hits doesn't make you have an intense trip your acid is either bunk or you're using something else that's being pushed off as lsd, dxm is often sold off as lsd. Make sure that you know you can stay at a place long enough for the affects to wear off and make sure you know who you are taking the drugs with. It is also wise to not take drugs alone and not with strangers either.

Drug experimentation is not the problem. That in itself can be a spiritual expierence. The problem is that many novices may see drugs as a quick way to induce advance practices and all too often novices may have little understanding of a drugs affects or proper dosage let alone understand the states of mind they've induced. This can lead to a high degre of suggestability where one tricks themself into doing things or believing things they otherwise wouldn't. Then there are some who point to spirituallity as an excuse to get high. My main concern with drugs is that they can be habbit forming, physiologically and psychologically. In reality one can do serious harm to themself and enough damage may affect one's ability to preform magick feats without the use of drugs, especially if one has an addictive personallity.

I know I might come across as preachy and don't be confused I believe people will do what they want regardless and I think thats the way it should be--its called freewill. But I cannot understate the level of caution one should take if they plan on using drugs for any reason.


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Theft   Use Of Drugs For Magickal Purposes   Nov 1 2006, 12:22 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   i have experimented with drugs and magick. Its tri...   Nov 1 2006, 10:19 AM
Theft   Erowid is one of my favorite sites to visit becaus...   Nov 1 2006, 11:27 AM
Theft   I constantly refer back to erowid.com for medical ...   Nov 1 2006, 02:26 PM
Acid09   Sorry I just can't possibly consider dxm a ...   Nov 1 2006, 06:16 PM
Theft   I used it from an over-the-counter medicine and es...   Nov 1 2006, 07:08 PM
extinctionspasm   Hereisthe short answer from a modern day Hunter S ...   Nov 1 2006, 09:41 PM
kairos   If you know anything about the Qabalah you will kn...   Nov 3 2006, 01:27 PM
norrinradd   Hereisthe short answer from a modern day Hunter S ...   Oct 30 2007, 01:32 AM
wizardgryphon   i agree even though im using marijauna now for dee...   Oct 30 2007, 02:52 PM
extinctionspasm   There is so much to this topic, and without intend...   Nov 3 2006, 11:52 PM
sithhunter   There are initiations that use drugs, and I think ...   Nov 6 2006, 12:44 AM
CosmicInferno   forgive me if i go through digging up a few retire...   Sep 20 2007, 08:25 PM
Samas   forgive me if i go through digging up a few retire...   Sep 21 2007, 02:22 AM
Goibniu   Personally I wouldn't use drugs for magical pu...   Sep 21 2007, 05:09 PM
paxx   Drugs…and their use in Magick. Is a very interesti...   Oct 26 2007, 06:16 PM
wizardgryphon   if you mean like the use of peyote, mooshrooms, an...   Oct 28 2007, 03:17 PM
paxx   But how is one really supposed to use them for the...   Oct 28 2007, 08:38 PM
wizardgryphon   But how is one really supposed to use them for the...   Oct 28 2007, 09:39 PM
Krell   All good advice I think. There seems to be the im...   Jun 27 2008, 09:04 AM
Imperial Arts   Though there are millions of people who will attes...   Jun 27 2008, 12:12 PM
shamanwizard   Though there are millions of people who will attes...   Jun 27 2008, 09:49 PM
Imperial Arts   Probably the worst drugs available these days are ...   Jun 29 2008, 11:31 PM
shamanwizard   Probably the worst drugs available these days are ...   Jun 30 2008, 03:24 PM
Acid09   I agree with both of you. There are legitimate spi...   Jun 29 2008, 06:25 PM
Acid09   What gets to me are all those "male enhance...   Jun 30 2008, 06:14 PM
Jenfucius   What are your opinions on it? Does the drug induc...   Nov 12 2008, 05:21 PM

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