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post Nov 1 2006, 12:22 AM
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What are your opinions on it? Does the drug induced state help/hinder your grasp on magick, or both? I've thought about if it would alter your ability to grasp energy, yet at the same time, could it help you become more aware of the surroundings, or your self-conscious? So what are the opinions, or facts on this subject?


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post Nov 3 2006, 11:52 PM
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There is so much to this topic, and without intending to sound ambiguous or esoteric or diplomatic or evasive, i would like to say that on the point regarding yesod i think it would be wise for anyone to take both our peices of "theory" (which is all it will be to someone experimenting for their first times) into account, and surrender to the law of paradox wherein to a certain extent both of our seemingly contradicting points of view contribute to the larger picture of truth. For an idea of where these polar points of view may be assimilated I would suggest people look to the last two sentences of kairos's post. Thesis - antithesis - synthesis. I think kairos has touched on the most poignant point of this discussion though, and it is good to have somebody advocating for a less extreme view point than my own. Better as a student to risk being swamped by an overabundance of information from which to draw, than to be restricted into relying on too few sources to be able to develop a truly balanced direction from which to proceed. The only two points i would like to add though is that 1. as kairos and i have highlighted, yesod is in a way the entrance hall to the world of spirit, it is simultaneously the poison and the remedy; it is the mushroom from alice in wonderland; eat the right amount and you shall fit through the door, eat too much and you may never escape (i am sorry if this sounds extreme - but we do not complain when we read tv manuals and they say "warning - electricity kills").... point 2. is that in any experimentations with drugs; remember that you have a body and that drugs damage your body; the damage if it is not too great can be reversed but this takes care and effort. Remember excess. Dont go too far - you might say whats this guy talking about he claims to have taken mushies everyday for three months and so on - yes the human body mind and spirit can be pushed to extremes that most woud deem unimaginible, and the results can be most rewarding - but three months to one can be as effective as three days or hours to another - learn your limits and listen to your body and mind and spirit - with chemicals that can very easily stop your heart beating - if you are unsure, then move on the side of caution. Rahdy rahdy rah - you know what i mean!!!!

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Theft   Use Of Drugs For Magickal Purposes   Nov 1 2006, 12:22 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   i have experimented with drugs and magick. Its tri...   Nov 1 2006, 10:19 AM
Theft   Erowid is one of my favorite sites to visit becaus...   Nov 1 2006, 11:27 AM
Acid09   The main problem with drugs is that they act like ...   Nov 1 2006, 02:03 PM
Theft   I constantly refer back to erowid.com for medical ...   Nov 1 2006, 02:26 PM
Acid09   Sorry I just can't possibly consider dxm a ...   Nov 1 2006, 06:16 PM
Theft   I used it from an over-the-counter medicine and es...   Nov 1 2006, 07:08 PM
extinctionspasm   Hereisthe short answer from a modern day Hunter S ...   Nov 1 2006, 09:41 PM
kairos   If you know anything about the Qabalah you will kn...   Nov 3 2006, 01:27 PM
norrinradd   Hereisthe short answer from a modern day Hunter S ...   Oct 30 2007, 01:32 AM
wizardgryphon   i agree even though im using marijauna now for dee...   Oct 30 2007, 02:52 PM
sithhunter   There are initiations that use drugs, and I think ...   Nov 6 2006, 12:44 AM
CosmicInferno   forgive me if i go through digging up a few retire...   Sep 20 2007, 08:25 PM
Samas   forgive me if i go through digging up a few retire...   Sep 21 2007, 02:22 AM
Goibniu   Personally I wouldn't use drugs for magical pu...   Sep 21 2007, 05:09 PM
paxx   Drugs…and their use in Magick. Is a very interesti...   Oct 26 2007, 06:16 PM
wizardgryphon   if you mean like the use of peyote, mooshrooms, an...   Oct 28 2007, 03:17 PM
paxx   But how is one really supposed to use them for the...   Oct 28 2007, 08:38 PM
wizardgryphon   But how is one really supposed to use them for the...   Oct 28 2007, 09:39 PM
Krell   All good advice I think. There seems to be the im...   Jun 27 2008, 09:04 AM
Imperial Arts   Though there are millions of people who will attes...   Jun 27 2008, 12:12 PM
shamanwizard   Though there are millions of people who will attes...   Jun 27 2008, 09:49 PM
Imperial Arts   Probably the worst drugs available these days are ...   Jun 29 2008, 11:31 PM
shamanwizard   Probably the worst drugs available these days are ...   Jun 30 2008, 03:24 PM
Acid09   I agree with both of you. There are legitimate spi...   Jun 29 2008, 06:25 PM
Acid09   What gets to me are all those "male enhance...   Jun 30 2008, 06:14 PM
Jenfucius   What are your opinions on it? Does the drug induc...   Nov 12 2008, 05:21 PM

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