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post Oct 26 2005, 08:56 AM
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I have asked this under a different topic and forum category/purpose but have not get any answers until now. Hopefully, starting this it's own topic will generate some enlightments (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

My questions basically all around fasting, such as why people do it, what is the benefits of it, how do you actually fast and what result do you actually get from fasting?

I know that fasting are supposedly purifies the body, and the mind. But does it awaken certain occult powers/influences?

A local magical system where I lives employs a lot of fasting into their system. Doing a specific working, a fast often are involved. To cast a spell, it is usually "bought" with specific fasting from a whole night fast, 3 days, 7 days etc. Certain "rules" also applied such as white fast where you're only allowed to eat white rice and plain water - up to only a handfull of plain tasteless food and a glass of water. A very popular "Pati geni" fast involves the operator to meditate in a complete darkness for complete 24 hours up to 3 days (some requires more) while single mindedly reciting the mantra/intent of the spell/powers the operator wish to "purchase". The result were said to be immediately can be tested.

Friends and one of my personal staff can confirm this with personal or other people's experience with results such as: complete obedience/submission of the opposite sex up to drive them to insanity/suicide, instantly kill a person, insert physical materials like nails, glass or poisonus animals into the victim's body for prolonged incureable sickness, ability to heal, see the astral, immunity to razors, nails or other sharp weapons, the physical martial art power of 10 horses (for example (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)) the ability to run and fly like the wind, to be physically invisible, and the ability to refuse death (but not old age) until the operator allows death to come (usually when he/she got really tired of the prolonged sickness)...etc etc etc.

These will sound like fairy tales to many western minds, but are supposedly true and exist, every single claim of it, since growing up in this country I have heard these often and witnessed severals of them. I could go on and on with this but that is not the purpose of this topic.

Majorities of the above achieved by difficult fasting/s, meditations and mantra's.

I have several theories in my attempt to answer this such as the direct/indirect use of our subconscious mind, single pointedness of intend over a period of time and use of barbarous words to bypass it to awaken/strengthen our untapped powers. But I'd like very much to hear your thoughts on this please. Anything that could add to our knowledge.

How does - exactly - fasting achieves the operators intend? Has anybody fasted for an intent and got results? etc... anything related to this please


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post Nov 5 2006, 02:27 AM
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Dear members:
How do you all concentrate when fasting?

I am attempting to complete the 'moon of purification' in the Necronomicon. Basically, pray to the gods at morning (cant do it) and at night (no prob), no sex or 'spilling your seed' for 30 days (surprisingly difficult to do), no meat in the last 7 dats (no prob) and no food on the last three days (is killing me!)

Well today was my first day of fast: no breakfast no lunch. By 2 pm I started to get a throbbing hadache. By 4 pm I had on top of the headache intense pain in my frontal lobes (which sometimes migrated to the back of my head). By 6 pm I broke down and had to eat some spagetti. Now at midnight the headache has returned, and I hope I'll be able to sleep without a midnight snack...

Needless to say it is the first time I've attempted a 'fast'.

Why I dont see is how is this beneficial?.. How will I be able to concentrate in what I am doing or try to sense very delicate phenomenon with a mother of a head ache and what feels like two nails imbedded over my eyebrows?

Suggestions? Comments?

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post Nov 5 2006, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(Traveller @ Nov 5 2006, 09:27 AM) *
Well today was my first day of fast: no breakfast no lunch. By 2 pm I started to get a throbbing hadache. By 4 pm I had on top of the headache intense pain in my frontal lobes (which sometimes migrated to the back of my head). By 6 pm I broke down and had to eat some spagetti. Now at midnight the headache has returned, and I hope I'll be able to sleep without a midnight snack...

Needless to say it is the first time I've attempted a 'fast'.
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When you begin a no-food fast your body goes into de-tox. if this is your first fast then it is likely there will be a lot of toxins in your system, depending on your normal diet, lifestyle and health, etc.
In our modern lifestyles we also tend to pick up lots of minor addictions - white sugar, caffeine etc, most addictions cant be put aside without some form of cold turkey.

Headaches are a very very common side effect of early fasting. Theres not a lot to do about them other than drink enough water to help facilitate the de-tox. The only recommendation I have is that before doing any kind of ceremony or ritual its a good idea to have a dry run or dress rehersal to make sure that you don't trip up on any of the mundane elements.
The good news is fasting gets much easier with practice.
good luck with your next 2 days.

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| Kinjo   The Theory of Fasting   Oct 26 2005, 08:56 AM
DollHouseKitty   To put it is as simply as I can, it's all in t...   Oct 26 2005, 10:32 AM
| Kinjo   Good posting. I also want to add that once one of...   Oct 26 2005, 12:28 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   As dolhouskitty says, it is all in the mind. Fast...   Oct 27 2005, 01:12 PM
| Kinjo   Thanks for your replies :thumsup: I think we g...   Oct 27 2005, 02:54 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   I think the esoteric qualities are described enoug...   Oct 27 2005, 03:44 PM
| Kinjo   Just a thought, not sleeping for 2 days (without f...   Oct 27 2005, 05:25 PM
DollHouseKitty   Hrmmm...I've never had a problem with developi...   Oct 27 2005, 06:12 PM
mediocracy   From what I have read it appears that a period of ...   Oct 28 2005, 12:23 AM
| Kinjo   I am attempting a full and complete 24 hours nonst...   Oct 29 2005, 05:13 AM
DollHouseKitty   That smoking one is cetainly one helluva feat...be...   Oct 29 2005, 03:41 PM
Bb3   I've fasted quite often in the past and am sta...   Oct 29 2005, 06:40 PM
| Kinjo   Well, I have not eat anything up until now...hmm.....   Oct 29 2005, 10:16 PM
| Kinjo   The idea of a true fasting is to conquer all of o...   Oct 29 2005, 10:52 PM
DollHouseKitty   I don't doubt the sheer force of will, not at ...   Oct 29 2005, 11:37 PM
| Kinjo   I'm actually in a no position to suggest anyon...   Oct 30 2005, 01:35 AM
| Kinjo   I did the math on this one. My mantra takes exact...   Oct 30 2005, 02:02 AM
Bb3   I think this depended on individual intent which ...   Oct 30 2005, 03:24 AM
| Kinjo   Yup, fasting is not a thrilling habit... think of ...   Oct 30 2005, 08:47 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   lovely, Did you reach some new height kinjo? Dol...   Oct 31 2005, 03:56 AM
| Kinjo   Only one trial fast so far :p however, I noted I o...   Oct 31 2005, 05:00 AM
Bb3   On the contrary I tend to look at fasting itself...   Oct 31 2005, 03:04 PM
| Kinjo   I just done 21.00pm - 04.30am torture. The fast st...   Oct 31 2005, 04:25 PM
| Kinjo   More info on fasting: Indonesian Shamanic Method o...   Nov 12 2005, 09:42 PM
Bitcouch   Master Choa Kok Sui said that fasting increases yo...   Oct 18 2006, 01:21 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   another way of fasting is deprivation of sleep. Im...   Oct 18 2006, 09:08 AM
Bb3   another way of fasting is deprivation of sleep. Im...   Oct 24 2006, 08:08 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   i should have said that another way. sleep depriva...   Oct 26 2006, 06:14 PM
Bb3   Fasting makes me lightheaded, and weakens my body,...   Oct 27 2006, 11:41 AM
palindroem   The system that is our person occupies a huge amou...   Oct 27 2006, 01:14 PM
Pilgrim Child   Obviously there are many types of fasting, with di...   Nov 1 2006, 09:00 AM
Traveller   When you begin a no-food fast your body goes into ...   Nov 9 2006, 01:20 PM
Bb3   I think you are right in that I went into detox wi...   Nov 9 2006, 08:08 PM
DarkGoddess   I see fasting a little different than from the mag...   Nov 16 2006, 06:40 PM
old23supreme   I've done a Master Cleanse, which is also know...   Nov 19 2006, 11:27 AM
sithhunter   I've never studied Indonesian techniques Kinjo...   Nov 6 2006, 02:09 AM

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