What Is It Capable Of? Options

I'm relatively new to the serious study of magick. I've been reading some of the works of Aleister Crowley, Gerald del Campo, and other thelemists. After reading about thelema, I'm left with the distinct impession that magickal workings are, in practice, essentially useless. All of the claims of "magickal" happenings seem to be spiritual and introverted in nature. They seem to be a means to better understand one's self, much like buddhist forms of philosophy and mysticism. Here is what I want to know: What are the actualy practical applications of magick? Is it possible for magick to effect dramatic, tangible change in a subject outside of the practitioners own mind? What kind of changes can be observed?

I'm relatively new to the serious study of magick. I've been reading some of the works of Aleister Crowley, Gerald del Campo, and other thelemists. After reading about thelema, I'm left with the distinct impession that magickal workings are, in practice, essentially useless. All of the claims of "magickal" happenings seem to be spiritual and introverted in nature. They seem to be a means to better understand one's self, much like buddhist forms of philosophy and mysticism. Here is what I want to know: What are the actualy practical applications of magick? Is it possible for magick to effect dramatic, tangible change in a subject outside of the practitioners own mind? What kind of changes can be observed?

Have you read Magick in Theory and Practice? Remember that the occult is a science according to Aleister Crowley. However, Thelema has what they call doing a magical working without "lust for results." The idea is to see all forms of action as separate from results, and of course, you're right, this is a Buddhist idea, or maybe a Hindu one. Crowley mostly studied Hinduism rather than Buddhism.

As that may be, this is a hard mystery to figure out. What I believe happens is that there is an interaction between the Chaos and the Deterministic parts reality, producing a new deterministic part. This is definitely dualistic, and not Thelemic. The thing to remember is that each intent has unforseen results and that the deterministic flow is altered completely by each act of will. This creates a great deal of flux in one's foresight, and thus the reason people like me have a tendency to fall into madness. Remember to that the formation of intent and its release by the Will is very rare, in my view.

I feel the non-dual is good to remember, impossible to explain, and better left unexplored except in the rare moments it presents itself.