What Is It Capable Of? Options

I'm relatively new to the serious study of magick. I've been reading some of the works of Aleister Crowley, Gerald del Campo, and other thelemists. After reading about thelema, I'm left with the distinct impession that magickal workings are, in practice, essentially useless. All of the claims of "magickal" happenings seem to be spiritual and introverted in nature. They seem to be a means to better understand one's self, much like buddhist forms of philosophy and mysticism. Here is what I want to know: What are the actualy practical applications of magick? Is it possible for magick to effect dramatic, tangible change in a subject outside of the practitioners own mind? What kind of changes can be observed?

After reading about thelema, I'm left with the distinct impession that magickal workings are, in practice, essentially useless.

i'm sure, that there is no magick as you imagine.it .. in this universe.... for you

This post has been edited by ZenMusic: Nov 8 2006, 03:03 PM

i'm sure, that there is no magick as you imagine.it .. in this universe.... for you

And what, exactly, do you assume that I imagine magick is?

Let us not be testy, he came whit a fair enough question. The roblem is I dont think we can answer it for him, he must answer it for himself. What I recomend buddhasmash is that you find a practice you like and start practicing, if you after a good while feel nothing and have gained your faith, perhaps at least for now you have to stick whit the magick of sience. Only yourself as I said can convince you, we can not do that.