What Is It Capable Of? Options

I'm relatively new to the serious study of magick. I've been reading some of the works of Aleister Crowley, Gerald del Campo, and other thelemists. After reading about thelema, I'm left with the distinct impession that magickal workings are, in practice, essentially useless. All of the claims of "magickal" happenings seem to be spiritual and introverted in nature. They seem to be a means to better understand one's self, much like buddhist forms of philosophy and mysticism. Here is what I want to know: What are the actualy practical applications of magick? Is it possible for magick to effect dramatic, tangible change in a subject outside of the practitioners own mind? What kind of changes can be observed?

Here is your answer simply:

1) Magick is the act of consciously making electromagnetic connections between inner imaginings - and outward manifestations of these.

2) Magick must work with and alongside of the laws of nature - not as we know them - but as they are. Gravity, inertia, e=mc2 and so on.

3) The point of three is that change is inevitable and constant. Magick is causing change to occur in the manner that you determine or see fit. There are some fundamental laws that cannont be broken - though they can be bent. You cannot make a lump of gold appear before you without there being gold somewhere in the universe already. Nano theory shows us that eventually we will be able to use garbage to make anything we want - a good enough magician could also do this - but it would take an extreme training of consciousness and will (brainwaves/electromagnetic energy) - this sort of power would take years and years to develop.

4) Spirit = energy (hint hint). Magick must be an internal spiritual process if it is to result in external physical manifestations.

5) Most people who attain physical manifestations recieve them in amazing coincidences. And like the first person to respond it can be as simple as thinking a few words if the will is associated enough with the thoughts. Here is an example of my own non ceremonial magick magick that achieved a defenite result.

"Demian" is a novel by Herman Hesse which is famous for its subconcious tuning of the will - it subliminally teaches magick. Israel regardie, Dion Fortune, and Aleister Crowely all reccomend it. Anyway heres my story.

At one stage when i was about 21 i had a real gambling problem. I was 8 weeks behind in rent. I had till tomorrow to come up with the money or i would be evicted. A few weeks earlier i had borrowed :demian: from a friend and decided that today i would begin to read it. After a time of reading the book i realised quickly what the book was telling me. I went to a friends house for dinner and told my friends who were aware of my dilemma that i was going to finish reading the book that night, go to sleep and dream about winning back my rent money; then i was going to wake up and go and gamble my last 50 dollars and win back my rent money. I got home and had read almost all of the rest of the book when i thought to myself; now i will go to sleep, i will dream about winning all my rent money back; then i will gwet up in the morning read the last 5 pages of the book, thwen go and win the money.
I went to sleep. That night i dreamed that i won $500 the next morning, i woke up the next morning and read the last 5 pages of the book. I walked in to town and bumped intop my friend whos house i had been at for dinner last night. I asked her to come with me to the pub. We went and i put my last 50 dollars in the machine. On the second spin i got free games which won me $860 which paid all my rent back and gave me a little extra to.

Sure it was just a coincidence you idiot. If you are stupid enough to believe that that was just a coincidence then i am an afghani refugee woman.

Right now i am in 6000 dollars debt. I am going to go and do ther same thing again!!!!

Here is your answer simply:

1) Magick is the act of consciously making electromagnetic connections between inner imaginings - and outward manifestations of these.

2) Magick must work with and alongside of the laws of nature - not as we know them - but as they are. Gravity, inertia, e=mc2 and so on.

3) The point of three is that change is inevitable and constant. Magick is causing change to occur in the manner that you determine or see fit. There are some fundamental laws that cannont be broken - though they can be bent. You cannot make a lump of gold appear before you without there being gold somewhere in the universe already. Nano theory shows us that eventually we will be able to use garbage to make anything we want - a good enough magician could also do this - but it would take an extreme training of consciousness and will (brainwaves/electromagnetic energy) - this sort of power would take years and years to develop.

4) Spirit = energy (hint hint). Magick must be an internal spiritual process if it is to result in external physical manifestations.

5) Most people who attain physical manifestations recieve them in amazing coincidences. And like the first person to respond it can be as simple as thinking a few words if the will is associated enough with the thoughts. Here is an example of my own non ceremonial magick magick that achieved a defenite result.

"Demian" is a novel by Herman Hesse which is famous for its subconcious tuning of the will - it subliminally teaches magick. Israel regardie, Dion Fortune, and Aleister Crowely all reccomend it. Anyway heres my story.

At one stage when i was about 21 i had a real gambling problem. I was 8 weeks behind in rent. I had till tomorrow to come up with the money or i would be evicted. A few weeks earlier i had borrowed :demian: from a friend and decided that today i would begin to read it. After a time of reading the book i realised quickly what the book was telling me. I went to a friends house for dinner and told my friends who were aware of my dilemma that i was going to finish reading the book that night, go to sleep and dream about winning back my rent money; then i was going to wake up and go and gamble my last 50 dollars and win back my rent money. I got home and had read almost all of the rest of the book when i thought to myself; now i will go to sleep, i will dream about winning all my rent money back; then i will gwet up in the morning read the last 5 pages of the book, thwen go and win the money.
I went to sleep. That night i dreamed that i won $500 the next morning, i woke up the next morning and read the last 5 pages of the book. I walked in to town and bumped intop my friend whos house i had been at for dinner last night. I asked her to come with me to the pub. We went and i put my last 50 dollars in the machine. On the second spin i got free games which won me $860 which paid all my rent back and gave me a little extra to.

Sure it was just a coincidence you idiot. If you are stupid enough to believe that that was just a coincidence then i am an afghani refugee woman.

Right now i am in 6000 dollars debt. I am going to go and do ther same thing again!!!!

That was a great, informative, well thought out, and convincing post...right up until the end there when you decided to lower yourself to name calling and implying that I'm a stupid person. I don't understand why people like you and ZenMusic are getting so testy here. I'm not saying that any of you are wrong. I'm just questioning you so that I may gather information. I suppose the occult web circles aren't impervious to the common internet flamemongers. I'll just move on to an occult community that isn't quite so hateful.