Possible Time Travel? Options

I was browsing wikipedia.com reading about the history of earth, ancient civilizations, artifacts, scientific theories of the universe and somehow it led me to time travel theories and how it cannot be done with our current scientific findings - even if it is theoritically possible. However, I followed a link to a page called The ATS John Titor Project/Archiving the history of comments and statements made by "time traveler", John Titor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor

The SkepticOverlord's Introduction:

At some time in early November of 2000, someone showed up in a few Internet discussion boards calling themselves Timetravel_0. Over time, they then laid claim to the real name, John Titor, a time traveler from the year 2036. From there, the name John Titor will forever be embedded in the folklore of both alternative-topic boards like ATS, and the Internet as a whole.

As many will recall, one of the first things Titor did was post pictures of his time machine and his operations manual. As the days, weeks, and months went by, people began questioning Titor about his presence "in our timeline", the seeming impossibility of the physics of time travel and his thoughts about the issues of our time. He also posted on other Internet discussion boards including the old Art Bell site. In his posts John Titor often entertained, enraged, frightened and belittled those who engaged him in mostly one-sided conversation.

On March 24, 2001, John Titor announced he would be leaving our time and returning to 2036. After that, he was never heard from again. Speculation and investigation about who John Titor was and why he was online (curiously focusing his efforts on conspiracy community discussion boards) continues to this day.

Although many find it easy to dismiss all this as either science fiction or an elaborate extended hoax, there are those who still read his information and agree that there is something very troubling about John Titor and what he had to say. I was present during many of his postings and at the time, didn't pay much attention, immediately dismissing it as just another Internet hoax. However, as time goes by, many point to current-day details that seem to corroborate Titor's stories, and even others feel his exact predictions have come to pass. Others have even compiled his contributions into the book, John Titor A Time Traveler's Tale.

AboveTopSecret.com is presenting the contributions and posting of John Titor as a result of the hard work of several members who participated in our research project focused on gathering all the data before it was lost from free online access. We believe this is the most complete and accurate archive of John Titor information available for free. The information is provided without official commentary of any type. Review the information, discuss, debate, and draw your own conclusions.

-SkepticOverlord.

30 December 2000 11:47 (about time travel) 169
(If parallel universes do exist, did they all start simultaneously? I mean, let's assume that the universe originated from a singularity. Were there any parallel universes at that point? That would not be very logical and it would also imply that there is a parallel universe in which our universe never existed.)

30 December 2000 11:47 (about time travel) 170
It is thought that the event called the �Big Bang� was the start of not only this worldline or universe but all worldlines and all universes that make up the superuniverse. It is also thought that the superuniverse can be imagined as an expanding sphere with the big bang in the center. Individual worldliness (or timelines as you call them) can be imagined as lines originating at the center and �trending� toward spiraling around the sphere until they reach the edge. The individual worldlines expand in length and widen as you follow them from the center. Each individual �moment� or �event� on a world line has infinite possibilities or outcomes. Imagine this as a single point with infinite lines shooting away from it, which in turn are made up of points with their own possibilities and outcomes. Now, remember, these individual worldliness with all these points and possibilities are defined by their ability to hold there inhabitants to timelike trips only (no faster than light travel).

30 December 2000 11:47 (about time travel) 171
Now consider the reality of a spinning or electrified black hole (Kerr). Penrose diagrams of these oddities show mathematically that you can make simulated spacelike trips (faster than light) through the singularity without being destroyed. In order to do this without wiping out most modern physical laws, you must travel to an alternate worldline or universe. Therefore, if multiple worldlines exist, infinite worldlines exist.

30 December 2000 11:47 (about time travel) 172
(�If I go forward on this world line, the future will not be my future. I get home by going back to 1975 before I arrived and then going forward to 2036.") A few people have asked me about this statement so I will try to clarify it. On my worldline (A) in 2036, I was given a mission in 1975. I turn my machine on and jump to another worldline (B) in 1975 with about a 2% divergence from (A). From the very point I turn my machine off on (B), I create a new worldline just because I�m there. This line can be described as © and started when I got to (B). I am now doing my mission on line © in 1975 when I discover a very a good reason to go forward on © and see what happened. I turn my machine on and go forward on © to the year 2000. When I turn it off, I start another line called (D). So from my perspective, here we are on line (D) in the year 2000. In order to go home to line (A) I must turn my machine on and go back on (D) until I reach © which in turn would take me back to (B) which in turn takes me to a point before I arrived on (B) then I go forward from the point I arrived on (B) back to (A).

30 December 2000 11:47 (about time travel) 173 v If all this isn�t enough to get your head spinning�here are some issues we�re dealing with in 2036.

1. Did your worldline (D) exist at all before I got here from ©? (personally I don�t see how it couldn�t)
2. What happens at the end of a worldine at the edge of the superuniverse?
3. If there are infinite worldlines and infinite possibilities and an edge to the superuniverse, doesn�t that mean occurring events on worldliness are staggered as they reach the edge? (time could end at any moment without warning).

30 December 2000 11:47 (about time travel) 174
In trying to imagine a superuniverse with infinite possibilities and worldlines, I think of a room with mirrors on all the walls. You are aware of your captivity but as you look in the distance, you see an infinite number of �yours� in an infinite number of mirrored rooms. The gravity distortion machine allows you to �step� out of your room and into another next to you. The closer you are to your original room, the closer it looks like yours, the farther away, the stranger it looks to you.

A very interesting and at least entertaining read (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I spent some hours reading through the pages and throughly entertained and half convinced. He throws a lot of interesting and thought provoking ideas and questions.
The ATS John Titor Project/Archiving the history of comments and statements made by "time traveler", John Titor.

I've always wondered about this - I've been told that it could be possible to use a toroid blackhole as a launching device by letting water (or something that might actually remain liquid in space) spiral towards the blackhole, thus giving you an approach trajectory, and then being sucked through the centre. I always figured you'd wind up as a tightly packed stream of particles, rather than a person in a spacecraft at your chosen destination.

Interesting point. I still speculate that regardless of the method of transportation, if a black hole strips all matter done to nothing but "singularitytrons" - huh I just made that up - you'd still need to figure out how to revert that matter back to its original form. I don't think it'd really matter if a person entered a worm whole in space ship or liquid slip stream.

This is why I think only consciousness would be able to traverse through time

Hey welcome Zugzwan. I like this idea. Imagine if one day we could transmute consciousness into energy that can retain awareness, yet reamin in a state that enables it to endure the rigors of a worm hole. Then there'd be no need to change the energy back to organic form because its already a living being. Crazy Sci-fi stuff I tell you. I like it.

Imagine if one day we could transmute consciousness into energy that can retain awareness, yet reamin in a state that enables it to endure the rigors of a worm hole. Then there'd be no need to change the energy back to organic form because its already a living being. Crazy Sci-fi stuff I tell you. I like it.

When you look into such things as: http://www.nso.lt/abydos/abydos.htm etc, and see how advanced the Egyptians were with their death sciences - it's hard to believe they didn't investigate remote viewing, as the intelligence services famously did during the cold war. Need I mention MK-ULTRA...

Remote viewing was used during Vietnam and the Gulf Wars to help targeting specific people in the future. Then remember that ancient and medieval armies would usually have a mystic who would peer through the veils of time to see how the enemy would attack, and the commander(s) would take that into account - depending on their own predisposition to such information.

If you find the above hard to believe then think about ghosts, have they really been around for thousands of years wandering the earth? Or is there some sort of problem with how they are interacting with time which shows us that time isn't what we think it is at all? This depends on how you think ghosts manifest and what they actually are (i.e. some may simply be people astral projecting from the past, or something may have happened to their physical bodies while in that state, or maybe they are an example that the future, past, and present all exist simultaneously).

What about UFOs? Are they simply our future selves time travelling back to the present and the past? If so, for what reason?

What I'm implying here in this post, is what you said is crazy sci-fi stuff may be part of our everyday reality.

This post has been edited by Zugzwang: Nov 10 2006, 08:28 AM