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post Nov 8 2006, 01:37 PM
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Hey guys, well i know like for instance, there is a great probaliliby that vishnu in hinduism is Enki. Ziku is ganesha.

I would like anyone to share if he can knw who of the entities of the Nec incarnated as Jesus.

And of anyone has a valid theory of Who Allah might have been.

Allah could be Marduk and or even one of the 50 names. The 50 names are not only angels but some are gods too.



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post Nov 12 2006, 06:12 PM
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Greetings,

On the identity of the Old Testament Yahweh; This is from Genesis 2: 9-19

9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The SERPENT beguiled me, and I did eat.

14 And the LORD God said unto the SERPENT, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.


OK, well that Yahweh sounds like a really pissed off Enlil, angry that Enki had seduced and taught 'Eve' about sex, thus elevating humanity and allowing us to reproduce. And if you'll remember, Enki was a major skirt chaser many times seducing women and was also associated heavily with dragons, or serpents.
Also, the way Yahweh in these passages speaks to Adam/Adapa and Eve, it seems almost as though he's talking to someone else's creations, I.E Enki's newly created humans. Now, i can't exactly remember which text it was, but when the Gods decided to create man, it was Enki who would do it, but on the condition brought forth by Enlil, that they not become to numerous. So naturally Enlil would be really annoyed if Enki went and taught us how to do that anyway.
The nature of the Serpent in the above text really fits Enki's nature. Enlil wanted us kept on the level of animals, Enki raised us up. Enlil wanted us destroyed by a flood, again Enki gave him the finger and saved us.
So i really feel the Enlil to Enki, or Enlil to Marduk transition theory of the Biblical Yahweh fits pretty well.
And as you mention Smasher, Baal being Marduk makes a great argument for the New Testament Yahweh being Marduk. Just look at how 'Yahweh' until the end of the Old Testament, would just go off the handle when his people encountered Baal worshipers. He was doing everything he could to keep Marduk from gaining followers and thus taking his throne. The perfect example is the unmitigated hatred the Old Testament Yahweh and his people had for Babylon, Marduk's major city.

Another interesting thing to be looked into would be the arguments between 'Yahweh' and 'Satan' in the Book of Job. Especially since in the original Hebrew, yahweh isn't arguing with 'Satan', he's arguing with someone called 'Ha Sa-tan', which means 'The Adversary'. In fact, this may have been the point in which Enlil and Enki switched places. In this account it is Yahweh who gave Job and his family many blessings and a good life, while the satan is all jealous about and thinks Job will turn his back on yahweh if he's stricken. And all the crap done to Job certainly seems like something Enlil would do. but that's just a quick thought.lol
Enlil to Enki, or Enlil to Marduk?hmmm
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mystick   Yhwh in Sumeria   Nov 8 2006, 01:37 PM
TheOneTrueFred   Allah = El = Ea = Enki. As for Jesus, you got me,...   Nov 8 2006, 11:55 PM
Suxur-Mash596   Well considering how Jews and Muslims ahte one ano...   Nov 9 2006, 12:16 AM
smasher666   The ceremonial magician who is sworn to Yahweh may...   Nov 9 2006, 11:31 PM
TheOneTrueFred   Thanks for the insights smasher! I admit that ...   Nov 10 2006, 12:04 AM
smasher666   [Greetings TheOneTrueFred, Zechariah Sitchin wrot...   Nov 11 2006, 11:52 AM
Seraphim   Smasher, Totally agreed there. I've read ...   Nov 11 2006, 03:02 PM
smasher666   Greetings Lugal Nostoro Tehuti, Enlil represents ...   Nov 11 2006, 10:09 PM
Suxur-Mash596   I have to agree w/ Seraphim on this, I really thin...   Nov 12 2006, 12:25 AM
Ashnook   Let us not forget that Marduk only took over Enlil...   Nov 12 2006, 02:30 AM
distillate   In dead names Simon hints that he thinks Allah = N...   Nov 12 2006, 08:44 PM
TwIzTiD   hey whats up everyone I have few questions about ...   Nov 24 2006, 12:25 PM
smasher666   Greetings Twlztid, There seems to be a lot of int...   Nov 24 2006, 01:10 PM
distillate   hey whats up everyone I have few questions about ...   Nov 26 2006, 03:27 PM
smasher666   Greetings Distillate, Staring at the seal and cha...   Nov 26 2006, 04:01 PM
Suxur-Mash596   I have found the spirits tend to WANT to be called...   Nov 26 2006, 10:07 PM
distillate   I have found the spirits tend to WANT to be called...   Nov 27 2006, 12:23 AM
NecroReaper   Greetings fellow occultists. Before any get alarm...   Jan 28 2007, 10:49 PM
Nosotro Tehuti   Greetings, Enki-yhwh, absolutely. There's ...   Jan 29 2007, 04:03 PM
NecroReaper   Greetings, Enki-yhwh, absolutely. There's ...   Jan 30 2007, 12:43 AM
mystick   In other words, he tells us: "When you're...   Jan 30 2007, 12:50 AM
altpath   Good post NecroReaper, I agree with the theory th...   Jan 30 2007, 11:15 PM
NecroReaper   Despite all of that work with the different Godfor...   Jan 31 2007, 02:17 AM
WyrdScience   Nice. Put in that perspective, it sorta explains w...   Jan 31 2007, 07:54 AM
Acid09   Since the bible was created in the 5th century I...   Jan 31 2007, 04:30 PM
Enochian   "To you it has been given to know the mysteri...   Jan 31 2007, 08:17 PM
Xochipilli   Your belief makes way more sense to me than any co...   Feb 1 2007, 12:42 AM
OmNamaShivaya   I dont mean to offend anyone with this post.So i a...   Feb 1 2007, 06:44 AM
Enochian   I agree with you there Om. How many people would d...   Feb 1 2007, 01:44 PM
Xochipilli   Dying to save the whole of humanity? Who wouldnt? ...   Feb 1 2007, 02:56 PM
OmNamaShivaya   Greetings brother Xochipilli,as you can see from m...   Feb 1 2007, 08:05 PM
Acid09   Lets try to stay on topic fellas. I understand tha...   Feb 1 2007, 03:12 PM
Edunpanna   Greetings, I have merged the current thread with ...   Feb 1 2007, 03:24 PM
Ra Hoor Khuit   YHWH is a mechanism not a god :)   Feb 2 2007, 05:01 AM
NecroReaper   Greetings Om. Good and evil are just symbols or s...   Feb 2 2007, 07:58 AM
nyechna   I personally believe that the Nec. fits in much ni...   Feb 3 2007, 11:24 AM
Enochian   Gnostic in the true sense only fits its own catego...   Feb 3 2007, 01:10 PM
nyechna   Gnostic in the true sense only fits its own catego...   Feb 4 2007, 04:13 AM
Acid09   IMO, the Earth is incapable of being good or evil ...   Feb 5 2007, 04:50 PM
Edunpanna   Greetings Acid, :goodposting: I totally agree...   Feb 5 2007, 04:55 PM
Acid09   Thanks.... although I did edit it after you posted...   Feb 5 2007, 05:20 PM
Edunpanna   Greetings'Acid09', Man was created from C...   Feb 5 2007, 05:30 PM

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