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post Jan 29 2006, 11:15 AM
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During my internet years, I found info like Jesus married Maria Magdalena, went to India and studied there, that he did not die on the cross. I'm not sure what to believe in. Yesterday, I finished reading Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code and in it I again read what I've found + Sarah, Jesus's daughter and how Constantine used the "perverted" new testament to make a god out of Jesus to win the Catholic over the Pagan. Altought the book has errors, it is still an interesting read.

What is your opinion on this? Jesus, the Lord or -just- a man?


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post Nov 26 2006, 05:07 AM
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Just to add some info to some previous posts. I also dont have my history books in front of me. But id like to add some more info for everyone to speculate about in regards to how jesus became, as opposed to what he taught. The torah speaks of a coming messiah, and it says that we shall know him by his works. It lists some miracles that the messiah will perform and that by these shall we know him. John can be interpreted as saying that jesus fulfilled these requirements. He can also be interpreted in other ways. Did jesus go around following the list, or did the opportunities just naturally present themselves. Did he actually perform miracles or did he fake them or did people make it up to perpetuate the myth. Do you believe in the big bang, static or oscillating universal models, or tolkeinesque creation? I think jesus was a clog salesman who carved mottos on his clogs to make them funny and appealing, and people believed the little stories he wrote on them and he just had a good imagination, but the silly people wanted him to be all that. But he actually was and the clogs werent real but they were brought to him after midnight by naked angels whose movie careers werent going well and so were doing nude angel work to pay the rent. Nude angel work pays well if you can get it. I got a set of nude angel wings on ebay and they go just great with my glow in the dark king james version.

Jesus apparently was fond of kids (in a wholesome down to earth way), and he would be smiling i suspect. Maybe matters of faith are best dealt with by fastidious researching and argumentative intellectualisation. Even for those who dont believe in jesus, jesus is a matter of faith. Do you believe in magick? Belief is akin to commitment. What is the nature of commitment? Commitment is not only a choice now, but is the acceptance that this is a choice you will have to make over and over and over again. I am in no way advocating putting down your books and making it all up for yourself, or just pig headedly sticking to some choice or belief you have made for the sake of continuity. I am suggesting that we should educate ourselves as much as possible, but that after we have devoured these words and opinions and ideas and theories, and revealed to ourselves as much as possible the possible motvations and causes behind all of these, that we should be entitled to sit back enjoy our beliefs for what they are - beliefs.

I suppose i am futilely reiterrating my opinion that man or myth or god or magician - im not sure wether he did or not, but if he gave his life - this indeed was a truly great gift. But maybe i am arrogant in saying that i believe that the reason for this was emotionally for love, but mentally out of that emotional love it was necessary to ensure the memory of the message - in my opinion jesus wanted us to hear his message more than he wanted us to worry about man or myth or miracle or whatever.

Just be kind to eachother - something its easy to forget.

Just be kind to eachother!!!

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Kinjo   Our Lord Jesus Christ   Jan 29 2006, 11:15 AM
Sabazel   an enlightent soul who decided to come back as a m...   Jan 29 2006, 12:08 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   dan browns book may be good, but it is still a fic...   Jan 29 2006, 12:34 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   my thoughts on the man. A misudnerstood sage, his...   Jan 29 2006, 12:40 PM
alia   I would rather side with the "just a man...   Jan 29 2006, 03:25 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   sure, Jesuz was just a man. buddha was just a man...   Jan 30 2006, 03:41 PM
Rakesh   What about the heretic theology of Johanites, bein...   Jan 31 2006, 05:16 PM
esoterica   a superb and concise description! brilliant...   Feb 1 2006, 10:07 AM
pratyahara   If you read the Old Testament, Jesus was the hebre...   Feb 2 2006, 08:56 AM
Rakesh   And yet, the Jews did not accept him as teh Messia...   Feb 4 2006, 11:47 AM
pratyahara   Are you saying Jesus took advantge of those waitin...   Feb 4 2006, 01:37 PM
esoterica   HA! I :wub: all of you so much! You m...   Feb 5 2006, 10:26 AM
vredesbyrd   he's a man. the christians created a story to...   Mar 17 2006, 04:59 PM
ChaosCrowley   he's a man. Ok I'll agree with that. I...   Mar 18 2006, 06:13 AM
Praxis   According to the Bible, Jesus was God incarnate as...   Mar 18 2006, 06:44 AM
Animalia   Jesus was real.   Nov 25 2006, 08:24 PM
SangueDiNapoli   Well, I think god had set a few messengers, and mi...   Mar 18 2006, 09:37 AM
tyrian   Seems to me the importance of 'Jesus as God...   Nov 3 2006, 07:52 PM
DeathStalker   I don't believe in jesus christ being anymore ...   Nov 4 2006, 04:58 AM
Theft   I've read info and seen shows disproving the i...   Nov 7 2006, 02:00 PM
ClockKeeper   I believe he did die on the cross, and that he did...   Nov 8 2006, 06:08 PM
Radiant Star   I could post several theories based on what -Heave...   Nov 9 2006, 03:38 AM
Saul de Plume   I'm going to go with a misunderdtood man. He w...   Nov 23 2006, 01:37 AM
extinctionspasm   Its interesting that one of jesus's most poign...   Nov 23 2006, 03:20 AM
DeathStalker   I also want to note that I revere Jesus Christ... ...   Nov 24 2006, 01:40 AM
distillate   I also want to note that I revere Jesus Christ... ...   Nov 24 2006, 01:56 AM
DeathStalker   What about Ghandi, a man with great charisma and w...   Nov 24 2006, 04:15 AM
Jenfucius   Looking from an esoteric occult perspective I beli...   Nov 24 2006, 01:33 PM
Acid09   While the Da Vinci Code is good read and even not...   Nov 24 2006, 06:45 PM
Acid09   Well I lost track of time and got an hour ahead of...   Nov 24 2006, 07:37 PM
smasher666   Greetings to all. Jesus in the Bible over and o...   Nov 24 2006, 08:00 PM
bym   Would you possibly care to expand on that? One lin...   Nov 25 2006, 09:23 PM
Zenofied   Just to add some info to some previous posts. I a...   Jul 20 2009, 08:56 AM
denk75   I believe Jesus was a man. The stories in the new ...   Nov 27 2006, 02:49 PM
Gopendra   Jesus Christ was and is the master of teachers,He ...   Dec 29 2006, 04:16 AM
Aunt Clair   During my internet years, I found info like Jesus ...   Feb 7 2007, 08:43 AM
Rishi Bhrigu   Salutations.There is reason to believe that Jesus ...   Feb 7 2007, 12:03 PM
Enochian   Balance. Jesus was a MAN sent to return balance to...   Feb 8 2007, 04:08 PM
Care.Bear   Dan Browns book IS fiction Jesus Christ is the Mes...   Feb 9 2007, 11:19 PM
Imoe   According to muslim tradition, Jesus or Hazrat Isa...   Nov 28 2007, 11:17 AM
Ankhhape   I am certain that Yeshua was not the Son of God an...   Apr 19 2009, 08:34 PM
Xenomancer   http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p130/thexenoman...   Apr 22 2009, 07:14 PM
Djinn Shiva   I don't think Jesus the Christ even existed in...   Apr 22 2009, 07:16 PM
Umbra Euri   Considering that there is little to no evidence of...   May 10 2009, 09:35 PM
valkyrie   ouch! i'm not even christian and that stun...   May 11 2009, 10:55 AM
ShinobiBombay   New guy here. I believe that Jesus is exactly who ...   May 11 2009, 10:19 AM
Goibniu   I haven't read Dan Brown's book, although ...   Jul 21 2009, 12:41 AM
Aunt Clair   I do not think we create the Godhead because we ha...   Sep 11 2009, 05:24 AM
grim789   AHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT????????? Ok i am not 100% sure...   Nov 8 2009, 12:07 AM
Hybrid Theory   [size=5]AHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT????????? Ok i am not ...   Nov 8 2009, 11:02 AM
grim789   Hey Grim, Although the Bible declares there is on...   Nov 8 2009, 11:16 AM
Kath   I am a former devout 'born again' christia...   Nov 8 2009, 12:16 PM
Relikhan   I think Jesus was a Magician... A man who was bles...   Nov 22 2009, 02:15 AM
plainsight   According to Christianity, Jesus was God and man, ...   Dec 12 2009, 08:41 AM

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