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post Apr 26 2005, 02:08 AM
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As a person, I have a big ego. I want to win at all costs. I want this and that. I simply want to have it my way. I want the cake and the icing too. I am spoiled and always want to take more than I give back. Is this an example of an Ego?

My ego boost me to gain riches, health, love and many other conquests.
My ego also make new enemies, destroy and corrupt various aspects of me and my environment consciously and subconsciously.

What is EGO? What does this word means?
How do you define it? How do you keep it your slave instead of it enslaving you?
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post Nov 26 2006, 10:46 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif) Greetings All,

In my understanding there are two different descriptions of Ego. There is the Psychological Description of the Freudian Concept of Ego. Sigmund Freud was the Father of Analytical Psychology. He pioneered the Model of the Dynamic System directed by the Id, the Ego, and the Superego.

The Ego is sometimes described as the "executive" because it directs energies supplied by the Id. The Id is like the blind king whose power is awesome but who must rely on others to carry out orders. The Id can only form mental images of things it desires. The Ego wins power to direct behavior by relating the desires of the Id to external reality. The Id operates on the pleasure principle, the Ego in contrast is guided by the Reality Principle. That is, the Ego delays action until it is practical or appropriate. This is the description of the Ego as given in the College Text called "Introduction to Psychology" Chapter 14, pg. 468.

The second definition I will use comes from a Philosophical explanation of the Ego as set forth in the Philosophy of Johanne Gottlieb Fichte in the Series called "A History of Philosophy" by Frederick Copleston, S.J. Volume VII, pg. 40. It states:
"But what is the Ego which is the foundation of Philosophy? To answer this question we obviously have to go behind the objectifiable self, the Ego as object of introspection or of Empirical Psychology, to the Pure Ego. Fichte once said to his students: 'Gentlemen, think the wall.' He then proceeded: 'Gentlemen , Think him who thought the wall.' Clearly , we could proceed indefinatley in this fashion. 'Gentlemen think him who thought him who thought the wall', and so on. In other words, however hard we try to objectify the self, that is to turn it into an object of consiousness, there always remains an I or Ego which transcends objectification and is itself the condition of all objectifiability and the condition of the unity of consciousness. And it is this Pure or Transcendental Ego which is the First Principle of Philosophy."

In the Psychological respect of the Ego it appears to be realated the External Existence, yet, in the Philosophical sense of the word Ego, it Transcends Objectification. In the first instance, it acts as an "Executive" which directs desires of the Id, yet in the Philosophical sense it is the Condition of all Objectifiability, or the First Principle.

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Helel (Joseph)


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| Kinjo   Ego   Apr 26 2005, 02:08 AM
mediocracy   I'm not sure what the 'proper' descrip...   Apr 26 2005, 06:05 AM
UniOne   Ego is a combination of pride and darkness... It i...   Apr 26 2005, 07:55 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   What you describe as ego in the above is in a part...   Apr 26 2005, 11:20 AM
| Kinjo   Killing the ego is like killing life. I am where I...   Apr 26 2005, 11:42 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   the ego is a word. it means whatever you associate...   Apr 26 2005, 12:47 PM
| Kinjo   Seemed like Ego and other things means a lot of di...   Apr 26 2005, 04:58 PM
DropAndRiver   The only way I've been able to manage my ego i...   Apr 26 2005, 05:59 PM
| Kinjo   Let's try to clarify and define what "ego...   Apr 26 2005, 06:16 PM
Zahaqiel   In the Freudian sense, not quite. Freud divided t...   Apr 26 2005, 11:19 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Thats a dangerous statement, and one that could ...   Apr 27 2005, 12:27 AM
Zahaqiel   Not really. So I should place my own health abo...   Apr 27 2005, 02:07 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   What i meant is punching someone who punched you...   Apr 28 2005, 04:19 AM
animus   All this talk about killing the ego or not being d...   Apr 28 2005, 04:25 AM
| Kinjo   Do what thou wilt can also be abused. Literally it...   Apr 28 2005, 04:53 AM
animus   Isn't this kind of the point? Do what thou ...   Apr 28 2005, 06:07 AM
mediocracy   Some would say that 'do what thou wilt' is...   Apr 28 2005, 11:30 AM
Radiant Star   Ego is the thing that gets us through until we fin...   Apr 28 2005, 12:35 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   I agree to Radiant Star, Its all about finding the...   Apr 29 2005, 07:17 AM
Radiant Star   I think the greatest problem with the ego is other...   Apr 29 2005, 01:14 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Lol, good one. Some people are showing their big ...   Apr 29 2005, 02:30 PM
animus   Just thought i'd post what www.dictionary.com ...   Apr 29 2005, 02:46 PM
Radiant Star   :goodposting: animus :) Aha! with that hel...   Apr 29 2005, 03:19 PM
Zahaqiel   Ok then, I can see how my stance might be constru...   Apr 29 2005, 06:23 PM
Radiant Star   We would probably choose a more effective way of d...   Apr 30 2005, 01:35 AM
Zahaqiel   Same goes for those without a self-esteem scale. ;...   Apr 30 2005, 02:11 AM
animus   Haven't really thought about this much but wil...   Apr 30 2005, 03:09 AM
Radiant Star   I think that although the language may differ, the...   Apr 30 2005, 03:28 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   Thats where you are wrong. If you don't punc...   Apr 30 2005, 01:08 PM
mediocracy   Ghandi managed to overthrow the mightiest empir...   May 1 2005, 12:41 AM
Radiant Star   This is true about the pacifist time line; my thin...   May 1 2005, 02:15 AM
Zahaqiel   Alternatively, if you do punch back, they'll ...   May 1 2005, 04:25 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   amen to that Radiant Star. In the end it all depe...   May 1 2005, 07:15 AM
Radiant Star   Now I am impressed A_Smoking_fox :wandwizard: :...   May 1 2005, 11:42 AM
animus   Very nicely put, sacred-magick should have a ran...   May 1 2005, 01:24 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Radiant Star and Animus, you both honor me with su...   May 1 2005, 03:29 PM
Mr_Merlin   I perceive the ego as the 'machine consciousne...   May 8 2005, 05:39 AM
Athena   Do what thou wilt, is only half of it, shall be...   May 8 2005, 12:36 PM
Athena   Thats where you are wrong. If you don't punc...   May 8 2005, 12:47 PM
bym   To all who have posted here...Thanks! Becomin...   May 8 2005, 01:10 PM
Radiant Star   Mental muscles I presume Bym, unless you are pract...   May 8 2005, 01:53 PM
bym   Absolutely! Eh....mental muscles...actually le...   May 8 2005, 03:01 PM
Mr_Merlin   Sometimes when you are your true self and you know...   May 8 2005, 03:16 PM
Praxis   My ego is the negative contrast for my character. ...   Aug 7 2005, 07:11 PM
Radiant Star   The way I see it, the ego is a balancer. I see it...   Aug 10 2005, 06:07 AM
smasher666   Greetings Joseph, I agree. My understanding of ...   Nov 26 2006, 11:21 AM
extinctionspasm   The ego concept has been develloped well beyong fr...   Nov 26 2006, 06:33 PM
esoterica   thesis: ego is a natural urge for survival of a gr...   Nov 27 2006, 09:37 AM
Gopendra   next page sorry :Oops!:   Dec 29 2006, 05:34 AM
Gopendra   The soul is constituted by a substance above in wh...   Dec 29 2006, 05:40 AM
The Wanderer   ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The spirits speak only on...   Apr 26 2007, 10:56 AM

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