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post Apr 26 2005, 02:08 AM
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As a person, I have a big ego. I want to win at all costs. I want this and that. I simply want to have it my way. I want the cake and the icing too. I am spoiled and always want to take more than I give back. Is this an example of an Ego?

My ego boost me to gain riches, health, love and many other conquests.
My ego also make new enemies, destroy and corrupt various aspects of me and my environment consciously and subconsciously.

What is EGO? What does this word means?
How do you define it? How do you keep it your slave instead of it enslaving you?
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thesis: ego is a natural urge for survival of a group, it has no funtion in solitude, and is not un-installable but is de-selectable, and has nothing to do with pride

note: this is the mental definition, if you will, of the ego, and not about whether it needs to be turned off or not, for "we must define before we can ever understand"; these are just my observations, nothing here is proven, footnoted or even claimed to be lucid; ymmv; comments and additions welcome

1) a dog likes to have its tummy rubbed, why?

a pack of dogs in the woods and one of them has brought back meat - the food provider will lay down and the other dogs give the belly rub

this 'belly rub' concept is a pack instinct and is required for working and living within a pack mentality

a single dog in the woods does not exhibit this behavior

what is your dog saying when it asks for a belly rub?

if you never give your dog a belly rub, will it die?

2) we also have this 'belly rub' desire or instinct for group living - we call it the ego

have you ever seen anybody rub their own full belly after a meal? might as well hang a sign on it

we are not that far away from the animal from which we were made - the instincts which drove that animal are still alive and well within us

half of most folk's life interaction is group (the rest is sleep apparently), and all of the media and 99% of all advertising is 'belly rub' based (except some intellectual and comedy bits here and there), smiling 'this makes me happy, buy it and it will make you happy too, and show a pic of a dog getting the belly rubbed so you unconsciously want yours rubbed too)

the ego can be turned off (or at least ignored) if one knows where to find it - it is a basic unconscious/borderline/conscious survival instinct for group life

you could be a hermit and avoid group contact totally, or you could imagine yourself otherkin or alien or dead or whatever and thus disconnect from the group even while being in the middle of it

once aware of the ego, there is an immediate defense available - society calls it being antisocial, and i'd bet a whole lot of those on here have it - it seems to be a visible testament to placement on the evolutionary ladder

3) pride has nothing to do with the ego

tom hanks in castaway when he has made fire feels great pride when he succeeds in making fire - pride, but without group to be appreciated by, then produces no ego, or does it - notice how he behaves as if there were a group though - is ego the instinct or the response

if you did something really great in the woods and felt great pride for or about what you were able to do, and there was nobody around for miles and miles, and you were aware of exactly what the ego is, could you recognise and turn off the ego desire and response?

enjoy,

e.

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| Kinjo   Ego   Apr 26 2005, 02:08 AM
mediocracy   I'm not sure what the 'proper' descrip...   Apr 26 2005, 06:05 AM
UniOne   Ego is a combination of pride and darkness... It i...   Apr 26 2005, 07:55 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   What you describe as ego in the above is in a part...   Apr 26 2005, 11:20 AM
| Kinjo   Killing the ego is like killing life. I am where I...   Apr 26 2005, 11:42 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   the ego is a word. it means whatever you associate...   Apr 26 2005, 12:47 PM
| Kinjo   Seemed like Ego and other things means a lot of di...   Apr 26 2005, 04:58 PM
DropAndRiver   The only way I've been able to manage my ego i...   Apr 26 2005, 05:59 PM
| Kinjo   Let's try to clarify and define what "ego...   Apr 26 2005, 06:16 PM
Zahaqiel   In the Freudian sense, not quite. Freud divided t...   Apr 26 2005, 11:19 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Thats a dangerous statement, and one that could ...   Apr 27 2005, 12:27 AM
Zahaqiel   Not really. So I should place my own health abo...   Apr 27 2005, 02:07 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   What i meant is punching someone who punched you...   Apr 28 2005, 04:19 AM
animus   All this talk about killing the ego or not being d...   Apr 28 2005, 04:25 AM
| Kinjo   Do what thou wilt can also be abused. Literally it...   Apr 28 2005, 04:53 AM
animus   Isn't this kind of the point? Do what thou ...   Apr 28 2005, 06:07 AM
mediocracy   Some would say that 'do what thou wilt' is...   Apr 28 2005, 11:30 AM
Radiant Star   Ego is the thing that gets us through until we fin...   Apr 28 2005, 12:35 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   I agree to Radiant Star, Its all about finding the...   Apr 29 2005, 07:17 AM
Radiant Star   I think the greatest problem with the ego is other...   Apr 29 2005, 01:14 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Lol, good one. Some people are showing their big ...   Apr 29 2005, 02:30 PM
animus   Just thought i'd post what www.dictionary.com ...   Apr 29 2005, 02:46 PM
Radiant Star   :goodposting: animus :) Aha! with that hel...   Apr 29 2005, 03:19 PM
Zahaqiel   Ok then, I can see how my stance might be constru...   Apr 29 2005, 06:23 PM
Radiant Star   We would probably choose a more effective way of d...   Apr 30 2005, 01:35 AM
Zahaqiel   Same goes for those without a self-esteem scale. ;...   Apr 30 2005, 02:11 AM
animus   Haven't really thought about this much but wil...   Apr 30 2005, 03:09 AM
Radiant Star   I think that although the language may differ, the...   Apr 30 2005, 03:28 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   Thats where you are wrong. If you don't punc...   Apr 30 2005, 01:08 PM
mediocracy   Ghandi managed to overthrow the mightiest empir...   May 1 2005, 12:41 AM
Radiant Star   This is true about the pacifist time line; my thin...   May 1 2005, 02:15 AM
Zahaqiel   Alternatively, if you do punch back, they'll ...   May 1 2005, 04:25 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   amen to that Radiant Star. In the end it all depe...   May 1 2005, 07:15 AM
Radiant Star   Now I am impressed A_Smoking_fox :wandwizard: :...   May 1 2005, 11:42 AM
animus   Very nicely put, sacred-magick should have a ran...   May 1 2005, 01:24 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Radiant Star and Animus, you both honor me with su...   May 1 2005, 03:29 PM
Mr_Merlin   I perceive the ego as the 'machine consciousne...   May 8 2005, 05:39 AM
Athena   Do what thou wilt, is only half of it, shall be...   May 8 2005, 12:36 PM
Athena   Thats where you are wrong. If you don't punc...   May 8 2005, 12:47 PM
bym   To all who have posted here...Thanks! Becomin...   May 8 2005, 01:10 PM
Radiant Star   Mental muscles I presume Bym, unless you are pract...   May 8 2005, 01:53 PM
bym   Absolutely! Eh....mental muscles...actually le...   May 8 2005, 03:01 PM
Mr_Merlin   Sometimes when you are your true self and you know...   May 8 2005, 03:16 PM
Praxis   My ego is the negative contrast for my character. ...   Aug 7 2005, 07:11 PM
Radiant Star   The way I see it, the ego is a balancer. I see it...   Aug 10 2005, 06:07 AM
Joseph   :blablabla: Greetings All, In my understand...   Nov 26 2006, 10:46 AM
smasher666   Greetings Joseph, I agree. My understanding of ...   Nov 26 2006, 11:21 AM
extinctionspasm   The ego concept has been develloped well beyong fr...   Nov 26 2006, 06:33 PM
Gopendra   next page sorry :Oops!:   Dec 29 2006, 05:34 AM
Gopendra   The soul is constituted by a substance above in wh...   Dec 29 2006, 05:40 AM
The Wanderer   ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The spirits speak only on...   Apr 26 2007, 10:56 AM

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