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Nov 29 2006, 10:06 PM
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This is very simplistic but it cant be avoided on an internet forum. This issue gets to the very root of some of the most important questions being faced by society and therefore by philosophers, scoiologists, politicians, businesses, "everyday" paople, and everyone. Though not all people are asking these questions, all are being affected by the current attemps of those who do ask to answer them. There are many, but some i feel you have touched on are:
Why does the so called "left" and the so called "right" feel the way they do? What are their motivations for advocating a certain path?
This in turn leads to our next series of questions which are interrelated:
What constitutes a moderate? What are the motivations behind moderatism (i am reluctant as many are to use the word moderation here)? From what areas of society do the majority of "right" "left" and "moderates" hail? Are the philosophies and opinions of the members of each of these "factions" based on self devised, logical, and independant education and research, or is it the result of word of mouth, or of popular "opinion"? How does the sources of opinion on matters differ across the population of each "faction? Do people in leaderships sources of opinion differ fom those of commercial members, or that of "worker" members? How does a members economic situation affect their ability to form opinions? And so on and so on.....
I watched a doco lately on "opinions" in america, where they asked people individually to rate their feelings on certain topics from one to ten. Like "women should have the right to choose abortion" - the 1 was strongly agree and 10 was strongly disagree. Then the people were put into groups of 10 or so, and the group had to discuss the topic and come to a unanimous consensus, and pick one number that they would all agree was the group "rating" between 1 and 10 (the groups involved people whose answers occurred in the same range 1-3 4-6 or 7-10). In each case the opinions all became ore "extreme" in the group. The 1-3 would usually settle on a 1 (even though most of the members of this group had individually picked a 2 or a 3), the 7-10s usually settled for 10, and the 4-6s usually settled for a 5. in most cases it was found that the most educaed on the topic, usualy had the most extreme views, 1s 10s and 5s, and that these were the people who had the most influence on the consensual group decision. Interesting.
I think you also need to add to a simplistic assesment of the drug issue the ramifications that are apparent in terms of the legal drug industry, the health and community services industry, and the arms and weapons industries. To leave this out of a summing up of the "situation" as it is, is futile. Its like predicting the outcome of a sports match after only assesing the abilities of two players, despte the fact that there are 10 on the field.
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Acid09 Legalize? Oct 5 2006, 03:38 PM Vagrant Dreamer This thread is kind of two pronged topic. For one ... Oct 5 2006, 11:33 PM GaiusOctavian 1) The drugs that are illegal are illegal for a re... Oct 6 2006, 08:21 AM + Kinjo - I still don't understand why exactly Marijuana... Oct 6 2006, 08:27 AM Angalor Honestly, weed has too many healing properties to ... Oct 6 2006, 09:15 AM A_Smoking_Fox i think it is every human beings own choice to tak... Oct 6 2006, 10:33 AM GaiusOctavian Please, american's are obese as it is WITHOUT ... Oct 6 2006, 10:57 AM distillate I was just reading an article yesterday that I tho... Oct 6 2006, 12:47 PM Acid09
Munchies are a myth and more of a pop culture jok... Oct 6 2006, 01:19 PM GaiusOctavian police have bigger issues to deal with than mariju... Oct 6 2006, 01:49 PM smasher666 If its something that can kill you via overdose th... Oct 6 2006, 03:54 PM bym You can OD on bleach....*sigh* prohibitions don... Oct 6 2006, 08:58 PM Acid09
Recently I accidentally overdosed on caffine. I t... Oct 7 2006, 11:59 AM kairos Whatever it is that one choses to do to oneself wi... Oct 8 2006, 06:14 PM Acid09
I agree. Keeping drugs illegal is impossing moral... Oct 9 2006, 12:49 PM A_Smoking_Fox
you can OD on alcohol without much problem. It i... Oct 11 2006, 04:32 AM GaiusOctavian Sorry, buddy, I've been drinking for years. I... Oct 11 2006, 08:04 AM Acid09
few years ago I had to go to the hospital because... Oct 11 2006, 02:37 PM GaiusOctavian 1) If alchohol were made illegal, yes, I'd sto... Oct 11 2006, 03:28 PM A_Smoking_Fox I must agree to the effect on your lungs from weed... Oct 11 2006, 03:39 PM GaiusOctavian Who said I was using the smoking of it as my main ... Oct 11 2006, 03:52 PM Acid09
Oh shit man. Lets not get into the "medicina... Oct 11 2006, 05:37 PM GaiusOctavian Excuse me buddy, I live in NYC, I'm friends wi... Oct 11 2006, 05:48 PM distillate Excuse me buddy, I live in NYC, I'm friends wi... Oct 11 2006, 08:31 PM GaiusOctavian Why don't we just start killing them off, woul... Oct 11 2006, 08:47 PM vulnera my view (if it isnt already obvious by the voting ... Oct 11 2006, 06:17 PM vulnera intelligent debate does not include calling for th... Oct 11 2006, 10:28 PM distillate intelligent debate does not include calling for th... Oct 11 2006, 10:39 PM vulnera I think it passed the point of intelligent debate ... Oct 11 2006, 10:50 PM GaiusOctavian I can really give two fucks how harmful it is. My ... Oct 12 2006, 09:37 AM A_Smoking_Fox murder is illegal to you know...
ah well, you jus... Oct 12 2006, 04:57 AM VitalWinds im just amazed that so many people on this site sm... Oct 23 2009, 09:21 PM Acid09 Well Gaius, if you read this... You're right. ... Oct 12 2006, 12:10 PM A_Smoking_Fox i don't care wheter he leaves either, and i fi... Oct 12 2006, 02:08 PM Vagrant Dreamer I think it's nationalism, not racism. Racism i... Oct 12 2006, 02:30 PM kairos Wow. I guess it's a good thing Gaius already l... Oct 12 2006, 03:49 PM vulnera hahaha... may i humbly suggest to the naysaying dr... Oct 12 2006, 03:54 PM A_Smoking_Fox some studies say marihuana even prevents mental de... Oct 12 2006, 06:37 PM Acid09 All I ask is that any opposition to any arguement,... Oct 13 2006, 01:07 PM extinctionspasm There is a big picture here. This poll is fitting ... Oct 26 2006, 06:36 AM Acid09
Its speculation or statistical voodoo at best. We... Oct 26 2006, 12:00 PM extinctionspasm Of course acid 09 is right. With such poignant jin... Oct 26 2006, 09:20 PM ClockKeeper As we have seen in the pass, people are more prone... Nov 10 2006, 02:39 PM Acid09 I lost sight of this thread for awhile here
now t... Nov 10 2006, 07:45 PM extinctionspasm Yes my own agenda, you are right. Number one on my... Nov 12 2006, 12:24 AM old23supreme Do you think drugs should be legalized?
-yes, all... Nov 13 2006, 12:47 PM Acid09
Most people are not as scholarly as yourself. The... Nov 13 2006, 03:47 PM extinctionspasm The point i am making is that you haven't poin... Nov 13 2006, 09:45 PM Acid09
Academic? Practical? I have yet to see anything t... Nov 14 2006, 03:07 PM extinctionspasm Why do you continually feel the need to repeat you... Nov 15 2006, 03:37 AM Acid09 I'm just messing with you because I think its ... Nov 15 2006, 01:24 PM smasher666 Greetings everyone,
I believe that before matter... Nov 28 2006, 03:55 PM extinctionspasm You dont know what you are getting yourself into b... Nov 16 2006, 08:55 PM Acid09
Actually I'm a smoker (cammel wides), a drink... Nov 17 2006, 03:53 PM extinctionspasm Actually my interest in the occult is why im at th... Nov 17 2006, 09:08 PM Acid09 Nobody is perfect, I sure as hell am not, but we c... Nov 18 2006, 11:22 AM extinctionspasm I hope for the sake of younger more fragile member... Nov 19 2006, 07:45 PM Acid09 Back on topic
First I voted the way I did on the... Nov 24 2006, 03:38 PM Godmagick13 Man....after reading all of this...I think I need ... Nov 25 2006, 01:07 PM Acid09 Well some info that may or may not have already be... Nov 27 2006, 05:13 PM Goibniu I suppose that the questions are more for people f... Nov 28 2006, 02:17 PM Acid09
I live on the outskirts of two cities with a comb... Nov 28 2006, 05:00 PM smasher666 Greetings Acid09,
I am with president Clinton. ... Nov 28 2006, 05:16 PM extinctionspasm I most definitely agree with something along the l... Nov 28 2006, 07:57 PM Acid09 I'm not sure if I agree with my buddy's id... Nov 29 2006, 03:59 PM Acid09 I think if we legalize drugs under the premise tha... Nov 30 2006, 03:24 PM extinctionspasm Yea i agree with you. I just think before we as a ... Nov 30 2006, 09:15 PM Xochipilli Drug prohibition does'nt stop people from taki... Dec 1 2006, 02:20 PM Acid09
Just to throw in a little tib bit - Aside from th... Dec 1 2006, 05:01 PM Faustopheles My .02. I think there is an enormous hypocrisy in ... Dec 1 2006, 05:12 PM distillate My .02. I think there is an enormous hypocrisy in ... Dec 18 2006, 10:45 PM Enochian Much to say here. Hmmm well first MJ is no more da... Dec 14 2006, 05:28 PM Wickedone I'm suprised the government hasn't realize... Dec 18 2006, 10:12 PM Eabatu I just dont like the fact the ones who decide what... Jan 29 2007, 12:17 AM dynajam Do you think drugs should be legalized?
Yes. I t... Jan 29 2007, 09:16 AM WyrdScience A problem with people nowadays is they think too d... Feb 4 2007, 09:41 AM Edunpanna Greetings,
I will have to roll up some train wrec... Feb 4 2007, 12:37 PM Sarena I don't smoke. I don't drink. I don't ... Jul 4 2007, 11:20 AM Acid09
cheers :drunk: who are the terrorist anyways? I s... Jul 15 2007, 12:16 AM Imperial Arts Any doctor that prescribes smoking (of any substan... Jul 16 2007, 11:22 AM Noxifer_616 Certain drugs (i.e cocaine and heroin) are extreme... Jul 23 2007, 09:30 PM Kriemhilde Everything should be legal and people should be le... Oct 24 2009, 01:56 AM Xenomancer Pato Banton best describes my sentiments on the is... Oct 24 2009, 10:28 AM bym LOL!
I concur! Pot legality started in thi... Oct 24 2009, 12:07 PM Goibniu When you think about it, all that the Prohibition ... Oct 25 2009, 12:57 AM xXDaemonReignXx I dont see whats the big deal. I like to smoke ma... Oct 25 2009, 05:10 AM Xenomancer
And then, on the eight day, God made weed...
*t... Oct 25 2009, 01:07 PM Kath hehe
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personally I don't smoke weed. tried... Oct 25 2009, 03:04 PM Acid09 Oh shit you guys ressurected this topic out of no ... Nov 4 2009, 07:27 PM Imperial Arts
I can't remember the name of the county but i... Nov 7 2009, 12:33 AM Kath a friend of mine at work summed it up in parody, h... Nov 5 2009, 06:50 AM Acid09
Which that same cop probably got off work, went ... Nov 5 2009, 05:42 PM xXDaemonReignXx Marijuana is my Balladona.
its my deadly nightshad... Nov 6 2009, 06:16 PM Acid09
lmfao!! Just something about a blind Ort... Nov 7 2009, 01:53 PM
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