Was Ashtaroth A Watcher? Options

Now here's a theory I was considering (another weird one). The watchers are known to have taught mankind all sorts of things, many of them bad (prostitution,sodomy, and bestiality were a few). Within this framework it would be consistent in viewing Ashtaroth as a demon who identifies himself as female (ie: he is homosexual, as were many of the watchers in the book of Enoch). It is my belief that the editors of the Key of Solomon and other Goetic texts knew full well who Ashtaroth claimed to be, but that they (rightly) placed him as male for the skilled magician to discern. Your thoughts?

This post has been edited by r9999: Nov 25 2006, 07:08 PM

R9999,

I feel as if this thread has gone terribly astray from Astaroth to Baphomet , goats, and our own personal philosophies. BYM is right these threads should not be made to preach individual believes and I will make my peace with you. We each follow the path that is given to us and I urge you to continue along your own. If you find that occult practice and magic make you a better Christian than God bless you.

One thing; however, I must point out as a Religious scholar. Goats are mentioned in the bible 141 times... not a single time is a goat called an unclean animal (that honor is mainly reserved for pigs). Below are some passages that you may look up yourself drawing from both the Old and New Testament. You may find the passage in Hebrews particular relevant to our discussion as the blood of Christ (i.e. the eucharist) is indicated as a substitute to the blood of goats and bulls to purify the unclean.

Exodus

{26:7} And thou shalt make curtains [of] goats’ [hair] to
be a covering upon the tabernacle: eleven curtains shalt thou
make. {26:8}

Leviticus

{1:10} And if his offering [be] of the flocks, [namely,] of
the sheep, or of the goats, for a burnt sacrifice; he shall
bring it a male without blemish. {1:11}

{16:8} And Aaron shall cast
lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other
lot for the scapegoat. {16:9} And Aaron shall bring the goat
upon which the LORD’S lot fell, and offer him [for] a sin
offering. {16:10} But the goat, on which the lot fell to be
the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to
make an atonement with him, [and] to let him go for a
scapegoat into the wilderness. {16:11}

Numbers

{28:29} A several tenth deal unto one lamb, throughout the seven lambs;
{28:30} [And] one kid of the goats, to make an atonement
for you. {28:31} Ye shall offer [them] beside the continual
burnt offering, and his meat offering, (they shall be unto
you without blemish) and their drink offerings.

Hebrews

(9:11)But Christ beingcome an high priest of good things to come, by a greater
and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to
say, not of this building; {9:12} Neither by the blood of
goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once
into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption [for
us. ]{9:13} For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the
ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the
purifying of the flesh: {9:14} How much more shall the
blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered
himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from
dead works to serve the living God? {9:15}