Was Ashtaroth A Watcher? Options

Now here's a theory I was considering (another weird one). The watchers are known to have taught mankind all sorts of things, many of them bad (prostitution,sodomy, and bestiality were a few). Within this framework it would be consistent in viewing Ashtaroth as a demon who identifies himself as female (ie: he is homosexual, as were many of the watchers in the book of Enoch). It is my belief that the editors of the Key of Solomon and other Goetic texts knew full well who Ashtaroth claimed to be, but that they (rightly) placed him as male for the skilled magician to discern. Your thoughts?

This post has been edited by r9999: Nov 25 2006, 07:08 PM

Hi Faust, I have nothing to make peace about here because I know everybody on this thread is a good individual and nobody here is suddenly going to sneak somewhere in the middle of the night and slit a child's throat for Beelzebub or some other insulation often given onto people who choose to follow ceremonial magic. In fact, I'm here to see if I can absorb some knowledge from the wise "elders" of the art here- Bym, Smash666, Suxur-Mash596 and others I enjoy conversations with. Faust, I do need to correct you on one thing though. The goat was never once called unclean (unlike crayfish,pigs,rabbits and other animals who were so for purposes too complicated for this single thread) and you are right on that. However, the symbolism is still there- a black goat over a white lamb, impure/improper versus holy and proper. You also forgot something important.......


TWO goats were offered- one for Azazel and one for YHVH. This is symbolic. The satanist is saying their goat is the right one, that their man (Azazel) is the true lord, as opposed to Jesus (the good goat for YHVH).

Azazel is even called the king of the goat demons:
http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/art...ew.asp?Post=100

anyway, I'm tired of talking about goats. I want to ask a question to Bym- the circle is most effective if it symmetrical and perfect no? I'm asking to see if my interpretation of it's hidden meaning is correct. If it is I'll try building a super circle just for you guys (I'll use a system of numerology similar to that used for the temple and other buildings of the great king Solomon, the intention will be to draw and concentrate the qualities of God into a protection accessible to those dabbling in the occult. My intention. It needs to be something pure from evil demonic interferences) . You have experience in this matter and thus I want to see if I can learn something important and contribute to your own knowledge and protection.

This post has been edited by r9999: Nov 30 2006, 07:51 PM