Speed Induced "hallucinations" Options

Now I know that everybody who has experienced "hallucinations" from staying up days on methamphetamine will almost always put it down to speed induced psychosis but after having a very lifelike conversation with a voice in after 3 days of sleep deprivation and lack of food im starting to question how imaginary these so called hallucinations really are.

Im interested in hearing opinions on the subject from occultists. I had no idea what psionics were until I had this experience. The voice talked about all sorts of things but at one point it said "Seeing as your more in tune with this dimension where deceased people reside, I can send you psionic frequencies". Also the voice asked me if it was my first psychedelic encounter.

Another very strange detail was the fact that after the voice told me it was going to give me a wet willy I actually felt a cold finger poke me in the back. It either felt like a cold finger or cold water seeping through my t-shirt.

Alot of very strange and unexplainable things happened. The voice seemed hellbent on convincing me I was dead too. It wanted me to face a certain direction and I noticed when I did the voice would get louder and more intense. At one point the voice said "Now that I have his undivided attention, I concentrate on his frontal lobe". I felt hands on each side of my face after that.

Something fairly strange that happened was after the voice told me I was going to get carpol tunnel syndrome my hands went ice cold and started sweating excessively for no logical reason.

Should I just assume it was my subconscious speaking to me or was there something else involved? The reason I posted in the psionics forum is because of that statement it made about psionic frequencies. I might have heard about psionics but I didnt know exactly what it was at the time.

Also I should mention my dads an occultist and this voice claimed to be him on numerous occasions. Also the voice repeated things my father had said to me years ago which I had completely forgotten.

Im not sure exactly what my old mans into but Ive heard him speak about Thelema and Aleister Crowley a few times.

Another thing I have a vivid memory of my dad talking about astral travelling and having to ability to poke people in the physical realm and they actually feel it. Weirdly enough when I asked him about it after this experience he denies ever having said that.

Greetings Xochipilli',

Bro I feel for you but this crap is all in your mind. You are tripping. U need to dry up. Detox. So you can come back down to Earth before you do something stupid. If U have been geeked up for 3 days and you are hearing voices then I do not care how you want to paint it you are having drug induced psychosis bro. 3 days snorting? How is your nose? Is it even working? Flush that crap down the toilet bro and call someone you trust and tell them your situation. You need to tell someone you trust that you are hearing voices etc and that you need a temporary babysitter. If you quit the speed for 3 days and you are still hearing voices then its time to go talk to a Psychiatrist who will put you on some medicine to settle you down. Life is short bro. Straighten your ass up!
You need to quit speed forever. If you keep it up you will form a permanent psychosis. It will never go away and you will spend a good part of your life in a mental hospital.

I hope you make it out of this in one piece.

May the Gods watch over you!

This post has been edited by smasher666: Dec 1 2006, 04:37 AM

While I do have to agree with Smasher on this about getting cleaned up, I have to say also that your experience wasn't necessarily totally in your head.

I have a friend who's little sister has childhood schizophrenia. She's not always talking to voices and whatnot, but in the times that she has had an 'aside' during a conversation with her to someone you can't see, you can tell how different reality is from behind her eyes. She's like, paint with toothpaste, hide meatballs under her pillow, chew on tissue paper crazy.

But, none the less, occasionally some of these voices tell her things that she couldn't have learned on her own. She knew when my friend lost her virginity because one of the voices laughed at her and told her that her sister had gotten laid finally, but she never would - she was angry at her for days before my friend actually told her, with some amazement, that she had had sex for the first time, but hadn't told anyone, including their parents.

Another time when I spent the night over there, she asked me who my boyfriend was, and told me he was an a$%*#!*. She hadn't met him, nor could she have known that I had been dating anyone, because I had just met him and hadn't brought him over, or talked about him around either her or her parents. When I asked how she knew, she said 'Someone Told me.' He did turn out to be an a$%*#!*.

My point is, just because your crazy, doesn't mean the voices you're hearing are necessarily always 'false'. Who knows what else that schizophrenic girl knows because of what 'they' told her. And she doesn't just hear voices, she's batshit crazy.

Speed is no way to attain this sort of thing, if it was real, every time. But, maybe as a focus for getting clean - and by all means, do whatever you want, its your life - building up that experience naturally may open up a whole new dimension of consciousness for you. Try and remember the sensations in your head and 'inhabiting' the experience while you're sober, or perhaps just sleep deprived (and sober).

Peace, and good luck, man. I too hope you come out all right, i've seen lots of people lose their sanity over one form of speed or another.

peace