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Xochipilli
post Dec 1 2006, 12:53 AM
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Now I know that everybody who has experienced "hallucinations" from staying up days on methamphetamine will almost always put it down to speed induced psychosis but after having a very lifelike conversation with a voice in after 3 days of sleep deprivation and lack of food im starting to question how imaginary these so called hallucinations really are.

Im interested in hearing opinions on the subject from occultists. I had no idea what psionics were until I had this experience. The voice talked about all sorts of things but at one point it said "Seeing as your more in tune with this dimension where deceased people reside, I can send you psionic frequencies". Also the voice asked me if it was my first psychedelic encounter.

Another very strange detail was the fact that after the voice told me it was going to give me a wet willy I actually felt a cold finger poke me in the back. It either felt like a cold finger or cold water seeping through my t-shirt.

Alot of very strange and unexplainable things happened. The voice seemed hellbent on convincing me I was dead too. It wanted me to face a certain direction and I noticed when I did the voice would get louder and more intense. At one point the voice said "Now that I have his undivided attention, I concentrate on his frontal lobe". I felt hands on each side of my face after that.

Something fairly strange that happened was after the voice told me I was going to get carpol tunnel syndrome my hands went ice cold and started sweating excessively for no logical reason.

Should I just assume it was my subconscious speaking to me or was there something else involved? The reason I posted in the psionics forum is because of that statement it made about psionic frequencies. I might have heard about psionics but I didnt know exactly what it was at the time.

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post Dec 1 2006, 01:46 PM
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As malicious and insulting as the voice was it actually gave me some good advice. It said "It costs money but I suggest going to a psychologist" also it told me it purged its soul in South America once and recommended I do the same.

The thing is though I've been into shamanism for a long time and I know alot about Ayahuasca or "La Purga" so my mind could have easily relayed that information.

You say your asthmatic what kind of medicines have you tried to cure it? I had severe asthma as a kid, I nearly died a few times from acute asthma attacks. I know all to well what its like speeding to the hospital nearly fainting from trying to breath so hard and puking up all the swallowed phlem every 5 minutes.

The doctors told me it was uncurable and they gave me all these inhalers which did absolutely nothing for me. I had it up until I was about 10 when I started going to an alternative chinese herbal healer. Insanely enough after a few months of taking these little black balls she gave me my asthma completely disappeared and never came back. On the contrary I havent even had a cough in years. My lungs are stronger than your average persons nowadays.

Have you tried any of these herbal healers? Also you wont like the idea if your anti drugs but theres a plant called Datura stramonium (Jimsonweed) which when smoked is supposed to relieve the effects of asthma and can counter asthma attacks.

Just dont take too much seeing as it induces toxic delirium and in larger doses will kill you.

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QUOTE(Xochipilli @ Dec 1 2006, 12:46 PM) *
As malicious and insulting as the voice was it actually gave me some good advice. It said "It costs money but I suggest going to a psychologist" also it told me it purged its soul in South America once and recommended I do the same.

The thing is though I've been into shamanism for a long time and I know alot about Ayahuasca or "La Purga" so my mind could have easily relayed that information.

You say your asthmatic what kind of medicines have you tried to cure it? I had severe asthma as a kid, I nearly died a few times from acute asthma attacks. I know all to well what its like speeding to the hospital nearly fainting from trying to breath so hard and puking up all the swallowed phlem every 5 minutes.

The doctors told me it was uncurable and they gave me all these inhalers which did absolutely nothing for me. I had it up until I was about 10 when I started going to an alternative chinese herbal healer. Insanely enough after a few months of taking these little black balls she gave me my asthma completely disappeared and never came back. On the contrary I havent even had a cough in years. My lungs are stronger than your average persons nowadays.

Have you tried any of these herbal healers? Also you wont like the idea if your anti drugs but theres a plant called Datura stramonium (Jimsonweed) which when smoked is supposed to relieve the effects of asthma and can counter asthma attacks.

Just dont take too much seeing as it induces toxic delirium and in larger doses will kill you.


Damn... I've had mine since birth, although I didn't have a doctor who was on the ball enough to recognise it for what it was until I was 25. He made it quite clear I was very lucky to still be alive, based on my lab work.

If alternative medicine works for you, great. I'm on every drug in the book for it, and they give me prednisone when it rains as I can't stand humidity at all. Good thing I live where I do. Anyway, herbalism won't work for me. How do I know this? I'm severely allergic to most plants--as well as anything with fur (although I have three cats and am tolerant), feather, pollen, or spores, as well as certain plastics and metals. :/ Jimsonweed and its ilk (Datura sp.) grow wild all over the warmer parts of North America. Not as much in the desert where I live, though.

I also have an autoimmune disease--this runs in my family. What it boils down to is my immune system is on overdrive and can't recognise what's a legitimate threat vs. a ghost, so...in any case, it's odd. I can't stand it when people tell me (no offence to herbalists or Reiki healers who might be reading this) that 'my immune system is too weak, and I need Reiki or whatever to fix it.' All they show me then is that they're ignorant of the problem. Strengthening something that's already too powerful is generally not wise, either in the physical or alternate realms.

Speaking of spirits: I had several dreams where the Goetic spirit Marbas came to me, and when he didn't speak to me directly, I'd see his sigil on a wall or a door in my dreams. A couple weeks after this started (I was new to the Goetia at the time), a friend of mine came into town and presented me with the gift of a stuffed lion. I got the message. I haven't had any real reason to formally summon Marbas and ask him what his purpose for coming to me was, as he showed up right before I got the AI and has been very helpful with everything.

I can lead a pretty normal life, I just really have to remember a lot of my energy is finite and plan accordingly. IE: if it's windy, don't hang out outside. Go shopping and stay indoors! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

As for the anti-Irish spirit, maybe it's Welsh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Seriously, though, even a six-month drug holiday isn't enough. For real attainment you're going to have to kick them entirely. *shrug* Dunno what else to tell you on that front, as I've said pretty much what I needed to and others seem to agree. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif)

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Xochipilli   Speed Induced "hallucinations"   Dec 1 2006, 12:53 AM
Xochipilli   Also I should mention my dads an occultist and thi...   Dec 1 2006, 01:01 AM
smasher666   Greetings Xochipilli', Bro I feel for you but...   Dec 1 2006, 04:36 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   While I do have to agree with Smasher on this abou...   Dec 1 2006, 12:14 PM
Darkmage   Dude, Methamphetamine is NOT the way to go. Trust ...   Dec 1 2006, 12:45 PM
Xochipilli   I'm way ahead of youz. I had intended that to ...   Dec 1 2006, 12:46 PM
Darkmage   Heh. Spirits, esp. low-level ones, like to play pr...   Dec 1 2006, 12:52 PM
Xochipilli   I agree with you on that darkmage. Drugs like spee...   Dec 1 2006, 01:04 PM
distillate   I've never been able to except the notion that...   Dec 1 2006, 01:17 PM
Xochipilli   If it was a spirit it definately was trying to sca...   Dec 1 2006, 01:24 PM
distillate   "Go back to Ireland and never come back....   Dec 1 2006, 02:09 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I got that same message from a spirit sunday. That...   Dec 1 2006, 06:21 PM
Darkmage   Heh. Thanx for the suggestion and the kind words, ...   Dec 1 2006, 01:25 PM
distillate   And exercise and the self-discipline that goes alo...   Dec 1 2006, 01:47 PM
distillate   Well I was pretty blasted Sunday when I got that m...   Dec 1 2006, 06:38 PM
Faustopheles   As malicious and insulting as the voice was it act...   Dec 2 2006, 03:19 AM
distillate   remember that addication is not fun, and withdrawl...   Dec 2 2006, 05:13 AM
Enochian   Its not the meth its the lack of food and sleep. M...   Dec 2 2006, 10:09 AM
Xochipilli   That all makes alot of sense to me. Although I did...   Dec 2 2006, 12:19 PM
Xochipilli   Another thing I forgot to mention is a few days be...   Dec 2 2006, 12:30 PM
Faustopheles   Yeah theres alot of con artists out there. I hear ...   Dec 2 2006, 01:03 PM
Darkmage   @Xochipilli: Fear will shut down any progress you...   Dec 2 2006, 01:18 PM
Xochipilli   I have to say nearly everything to do with the occ...   Dec 2 2006, 01:48 PM
Enochian   Try the gnostic way of purity my friend. Im intere...   Dec 2 2006, 03:09 PM
Xochipilli   I've already started. Im off the drugs altoget...   Dec 4 2006, 02:14 AM
Enochian   Awesome i wanna go.   Dec 4 2006, 10:36 AM
Acid09   Now I know that everybody who has experienced ...   Dec 4 2006, 04:02 PM
distillate   The body can only go for so long with out sleep. T...   Dec 4 2006, 08:06 PM
Xochipilli   That would explain the whole thing acid. I can se...   Dec 5 2006, 01:45 AM
Enochian   LOL american rehab equals drugs are easy to get be...   Dec 5 2006, 12:44 PM
Acid09   I'd throw in marijuana, x and datura seeds to ...   Dec 6 2006, 06:27 PM
distillate   I'd throw in marijuana, x and datura seeds to ...   Dec 8 2006, 12:50 PM
Xochipilli   Not to mention psilocybin containing mushrooms, ...   Dec 7 2006, 03:42 PM
Xochipilli   The same way I have pages for all the different Az...   Dec 7 2006, 03:56 PM
Acid09   I think just about any drug could be said to have...   Dec 9 2006, 12:59 PM
distillate   I take it either you've never been through any...   Dec 9 2006, 03:30 PM
Xochipilli   My ma suggested me going to rehab for that very r...   Dec 10 2006, 03:27 PM
distillate   My ma suggested me going to rehab for that very re...   Dec 14 2006, 05:41 PM
Acid09   I don't know where you are located but you mi...   Dec 14 2006, 02:15 PM
Enochian   Just read" the teachings of Don Juan" by...   Dec 14 2006, 02:55 PM
Xochipilli   A little update on my psychosis. Weeds been havin...   Mar 3 2007, 01:37 PM
Acid09   It is difficult to give you a real indepth occult ...   Mar 5 2007, 06:13 PM
Xochipilli   A side not I keep hearing "How there you...   Mar 6 2007, 12:53 AM
Xochipilli   Ah I found it. Heres an excerpt from an article de...   Mar 6 2007, 02:11 AM
Acid09   Well you at least sound like you're lucid and ...   Mar 8 2007, 05:30 PM

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