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Xochipilli
post Dec 1 2006, 12:53 AM
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Now I know that everybody who has experienced "hallucinations" from staying up days on methamphetamine will almost always put it down to speed induced psychosis but after having a very lifelike conversation with a voice in after 3 days of sleep deprivation and lack of food im starting to question how imaginary these so called hallucinations really are.

Im interested in hearing opinions on the subject from occultists. I had no idea what psionics were until I had this experience. The voice talked about all sorts of things but at one point it said "Seeing as your more in tune with this dimension where deceased people reside, I can send you psionic frequencies". Also the voice asked me if it was my first psychedelic encounter.

Another very strange detail was the fact that after the voice told me it was going to give me a wet willy I actually felt a cold finger poke me in the back. It either felt like a cold finger or cold water seeping through my t-shirt.

Alot of very strange and unexplainable things happened. The voice seemed hellbent on convincing me I was dead too. It wanted me to face a certain direction and I noticed when I did the voice would get louder and more intense. At one point the voice said "Now that I have his undivided attention, I concentrate on his frontal lobe". I felt hands on each side of my face after that.

Something fairly strange that happened was after the voice told me I was going to get carpol tunnel syndrome my hands went ice cold and started sweating excessively for no logical reason.

Should I just assume it was my subconscious speaking to me or was there something else involved? The reason I posted in the psionics forum is because of that statement it made about psionic frequencies. I might have heard about psionics but I didnt know exactly what it was at the time.

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post Dec 2 2006, 12:19 PM
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That all makes alot of sense to me. Although I did handle the situation well enough I still did let it get to me a bit. I got scared from time to time and let that fear influence me. For example when I felt the cold finger I got up outta bed and walked out of the room. Also I was contemplating going to a mental institution for a while and getting on antipsychotic meds to block off any psychic influence that may have been there.

Like letting my fear close the doors and lock me up again. Judging by the fact that I had this psychotic episode and the fact I let it get to me that little bit suggests that I had a weak mind at the time and probably still do.

I was wondering how I can strengthen my mind up enough that I can alter my consciousness and perform divination without the aid of psychedelics or sleep deprivation etc. I'll stay off the drugs however long it takes even if that means never touching drugs again. I think a bit of psychosis has stuck to me after the experience. Every now and again I head an internal voice say "Your dead" and I have an automatic reaction to it. Nearly always I get angry when I hear it.


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I have actually traveled throughout the Amazon and have met with several Quechua Shamans and tried real Ayahuasca…not the spirit journey bullshit that drives tourists by the dozen, but the authentic medicinal substance used to cure illness.

Yeah theres alot of con artists out there. I hear Peru is the best place to find legitimate ayahuasqueros with pure yaje. Anyway I know enough about ayahuasca and the jungle I can find and brew my own yaje but I would be reluctant to perform a ceremony without experienced ayahuasquero's. Plus without the proper icaro's it mightnt be a beneficiary experience at all.


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Its not the meth its the lack of food and sleep. Meth is by no means a hallucinigenic. By the way purity is the best means to any esoteric work.

Of course. Usually it takes alot more than 3 days to have full blown auditory hallucinations like I had though. I had some visual ones too I kept seeing a bright white figure of a human standing in the bathroom doorway.


Im ashamed that I had this psychotic episode after only 3 days of sleep deprivation. How would I go about training my mind and strengthening so its up to par the rest of you occultists in order to perform divination, magick, and alter my consciousness without using psychoactive substances.

Ive always been fairly impatient thats why I never got into meditation but I suppose its about time I learned. All my psychedelic trips have opened, expanded and strengthened my mind but Id love to be able to have the same experience without having to take mushrooms, salvia, DMT, etc.

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Xochipilli   Speed Induced "hallucinations"   Dec 1 2006, 12:53 AM
Xochipilli   Also I should mention my dads an occultist and thi...   Dec 1 2006, 01:01 AM
smasher666   Greetings Xochipilli', Bro I feel for you but...   Dec 1 2006, 04:36 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   While I do have to agree with Smasher on this abou...   Dec 1 2006, 12:14 PM
Darkmage   Dude, Methamphetamine is NOT the way to go. Trust ...   Dec 1 2006, 12:45 PM
Xochipilli   I'm way ahead of youz. I had intended that to ...   Dec 1 2006, 12:46 PM
Darkmage   Heh. Spirits, esp. low-level ones, like to play pr...   Dec 1 2006, 12:52 PM
Xochipilli   I agree with you on that darkmage. Drugs like spee...   Dec 1 2006, 01:04 PM
distillate   I've never been able to except the notion that...   Dec 1 2006, 01:17 PM
Xochipilli   If it was a spirit it definately was trying to sca...   Dec 1 2006, 01:24 PM
distillate   "Go back to Ireland and never come back....   Dec 1 2006, 02:09 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I got that same message from a spirit sunday. That...   Dec 1 2006, 06:21 PM
Darkmage   Heh. Thanx for the suggestion and the kind words, ...   Dec 1 2006, 01:25 PM
Xochipilli   As malicious and insulting as the voice was it act...   Dec 1 2006, 01:46 PM
Darkmage   As malicious and insulting as the voice was it act...   Dec 2 2006, 12:10 PM
distillate   And exercise and the self-discipline that goes alo...   Dec 1 2006, 01:47 PM
distillate   Well I was pretty blasted Sunday when I got that m...   Dec 1 2006, 06:38 PM
Faustopheles   As malicious and insulting as the voice was it act...   Dec 2 2006, 03:19 AM
distillate   remember that addication is not fun, and withdrawl...   Dec 2 2006, 05:13 AM
Enochian   Its not the meth its the lack of food and sleep. M...   Dec 2 2006, 10:09 AM
Xochipilli   Another thing I forgot to mention is a few days be...   Dec 2 2006, 12:30 PM
Faustopheles   Yeah theres alot of con artists out there. I hear ...   Dec 2 2006, 01:03 PM
Darkmage   @Xochipilli: Fear will shut down any progress you...   Dec 2 2006, 01:18 PM
Xochipilli   I have to say nearly everything to do with the occ...   Dec 2 2006, 01:48 PM
Enochian   Try the gnostic way of purity my friend. Im intere...   Dec 2 2006, 03:09 PM
Xochipilli   I've already started. Im off the drugs altoget...   Dec 4 2006, 02:14 AM
Enochian   Awesome i wanna go.   Dec 4 2006, 10:36 AM
Acid09   Now I know that everybody who has experienced ...   Dec 4 2006, 04:02 PM
distillate   The body can only go for so long with out sleep. T...   Dec 4 2006, 08:06 PM
Xochipilli   That would explain the whole thing acid. I can se...   Dec 5 2006, 01:45 AM
Enochian   LOL american rehab equals drugs are easy to get be...   Dec 5 2006, 12:44 PM
Acid09   I'd throw in marijuana, x and datura seeds to ...   Dec 6 2006, 06:27 PM
distillate   I'd throw in marijuana, x and datura seeds to ...   Dec 8 2006, 12:50 PM
Xochipilli   Not to mention psilocybin containing mushrooms, ...   Dec 7 2006, 03:42 PM
Xochipilli   The same way I have pages for all the different Az...   Dec 7 2006, 03:56 PM
Acid09   I think just about any drug could be said to have...   Dec 9 2006, 12:59 PM
distillate   I take it either you've never been through any...   Dec 9 2006, 03:30 PM
Xochipilli   My ma suggested me going to rehab for that very r...   Dec 10 2006, 03:27 PM
distillate   My ma suggested me going to rehab for that very re...   Dec 14 2006, 05:41 PM
Acid09   I don't know where you are located but you mi...   Dec 14 2006, 02:15 PM
Enochian   Just read" the teachings of Don Juan" by...   Dec 14 2006, 02:55 PM
Xochipilli   A little update on my psychosis. Weeds been havin...   Mar 3 2007, 01:37 PM
Acid09   It is difficult to give you a real indepth occult ...   Mar 5 2007, 06:13 PM
Xochipilli   A side not I keep hearing "How there you...   Mar 6 2007, 12:53 AM
Xochipilli   Ah I found it. Heres an excerpt from an article de...   Mar 6 2007, 02:11 AM
Acid09   Well you at least sound like you're lucid and ...   Mar 8 2007, 05:30 PM

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