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post Nov 25 2006, 07:26 PM
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Is magick ok for other religions because I am a very strong christian.
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post Dec 5 2006, 12:22 PM
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First of all prayer is not majic. A mage does no work through the power of god he works through the power of the earth. It is made by god. Second when the saints perform miracles that is not majic by the way that was at the beggining of christianity and excpted than. Third the bible specifically states over and over again that if you are a practicing sorcerer or mage that you are NOT in gods good graces. There is very little argument here from a christian point of view. The bible says no and if you disbelieve the bible you are not a christian.
All im saying here is it is unaccepted if you disagree go see your pastor or priest and see what they have to tell you. The conversation is not going to go well.
Prayer and miracles are far from a practicing majician. And to use prayer in such a way is a blasphemy the bible says so.
You want to know more about majic and christianity look into Simon the magus.


"There shall not be found among you anyone that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.


Lev. 19:26 "`Do not eat any meat with the blood still in it. "`Do not practice divination or sorcery. 27"`Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard [similar to the men from the pagan nations]. 28"`Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD. 29"`Do not degrade your daughter by making her a prostitute, or the land will turn to prostitution and be filled with wickedness. 30"`Observe my Sabbaths and have reverence for my sanctuary. I am the LORD. 31"`Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God. 32"`Rise in the presence of the aged, show respect for the elderly and revere your God. I am the LORD.

Deut. 4:19 And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars --all the heavenly array --do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the LORD your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven.

Deut. 17:2 If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, 3and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars of the sky, 4and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, 5take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death. 6On the testimony of two or three witnesses a man shall be put to death, but no one shall be put to death on the testimony of only one witness. 7The hands of the witnesses must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. You must purge the evil from among you.
Deut. 18:9 When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD, and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you. 13You must be blameless before the LORD your God. 14The nations you will dispossess listen to those who practice sorcery or divination. But as for you, the LORD your God has not permitted you to do so. 15The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him.

Christianity to me is a blashemy and the bible has been changed so many times that its not even able to be read without saying one thing than later saying the exact opposite. In revelations John uses lucid dreaming almost the entire book. But here is never any negative. Solomon himself was a great mage and mystic and dreamer yet his book is in the bible. Contradictions are everywhere.
But try and tell ANY christian in this day and age that you are wiccan or any occult related person and it will not be accepted.

Read about Enoch and how that book is left out of the bible (by ruling people) because they teech of majic and herbology and well many reasons. Dont fool yourselves no occult practice is accepted by christians (black brotherhood) yet most of there religous days and even weddings are pagan traditons. Foolishness

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Animalia   Religions   Nov 25 2006, 07:26 PM
Joseph   Greetings, The question whether Magic(k) is OK...   Nov 25 2006, 08:31 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   In addition to Joseph's observation that magic...   Nov 26 2006, 12:12 AM
Acid09   I think the only way to know if practicing magick ...   Dec 1 2006, 04:27 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   :lol!: True that. You wouldn't be much of...   Dec 1 2006, 05:52 PM
Joseph   Greetings Acid 09, I speak for myself in this ...   Dec 1 2006, 07:26 PM
extinctionspasm   Well im not a catholic, but i would call myself a ...   Dec 3 2006, 07:01 AM
Enochian   If you are a Christian Majic is a no go. Christia...   Dec 4 2006, 10:44 AM
extinctionspasm   Enochians comments here are not entirtely correct....   Dec 4 2006, 09:00 PM
TiacSway   I would have to agree with extinctionspasm. I...   Dec 4 2006, 10:46 PM
Acid09   Levicticus is still in the Church canon. It detail...   Dec 5 2006, 04:27 PM
extinctionspasm   I think the aparent discrepancy between arguments ...   Dec 6 2006, 12:48 AM
Enochian   Dont get me wrong guys. I believe that anything go...   Dec 6 2006, 12:42 PM
Faustopheles   Greetings, This is a really interesting discussio...   Dec 6 2006, 01:18 PM
extinctionspasm   It is my vain and arrogant opinion that the last t...   Dec 6 2006, 07:55 PM
TiacSway   I'd like to point this out: If you really ...   Dec 6 2006, 10:56 PM
extinctionspasm   In my opinion prayer is magick. You shouldn't ...   Dec 7 2006, 12:59 AM
DeathStalker   In my opinion prayer is magick. You shouldn't ...   Dec 7 2006, 03:05 AM
Bb3   dude, where the hell were all of you when I posted...   Dec 7 2006, 06:24 AM
DeathStalker   dude, where the hell were all of you when I posted...   Dec 7 2006, 07:00 AM
Enochian   The roots of Christianity come from paganism. It d...   Dec 7 2006, 11:33 AM
DeathStalker   The roots of Christianity come from paganism. It d...   Dec 7 2006, 06:43 PM
Faustopheles   Greetings DeathStalker, The hypocrisy which cause...   Dec 7 2006, 07:47 PM
DeathStalker   Greetings DeathStalker, The hypocrisy which cause...   Dec 7 2006, 09:33 PM
Enochian   Disorder is fine as long as it is no longer the pl...   Dec 7 2006, 07:52 PM
extinctionspasm   As i said before language is a funny thing. We can...   Dec 7 2006, 08:58 PM
Enochian   I dont think disorder really needs to be. As long ...   Dec 10 2006, 05:12 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I dont think disorder really needs to be. As long ...   Dec 10 2006, 06:46 PM
Enochian   Yes you got me on that one friend in that case ANA...   Dec 10 2006, 07:27 PM
waldoworld   I am also a strong christian I was just here to do...   Jan 6 2007, 08:49 PM
DeathStalker   The power and protection of the blood of Christ ac...   Jan 6 2007, 10:27 PM
Joseph   I am also a strong christian I was just here to do...   Jan 7 2007, 05:52 AM
waldoworld   Greetings Waldoworld, You come quoting scriptu...   Jan 7 2007, 06:23 PM
DeathStalker   I come not to convert that is not my interest I ju...   Jan 7 2007, 07:15 PM

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