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post Nov 25 2006, 07:26 PM
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Is magick ok for other religions because I am a very strong christian.
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I think the aparent discrepancy between arguments here lies in the difference between mainstream orthodox christianity, and a more inclusive christianity, which is based on the teachings of jesus in all its documented forms. Which uses logic and reason to pick out the recurring themes of jesus's techings to get at what was being taught. For many of these seemingly contradictory ppoints of view it is merely a case of semantics. Of how do you, and how did the qotes afore mentioned define magick? I for myself am a christian and i do not worship the sun or the moon or any other than god himself. But that is not to say that i will disregard the sun or the moon, or that if i feel that either of these attempt to comunicatre with me, that i shall not hear them. Just as if love my wife it does not mean that i worship her. As if i love my neighbour the way jesus taught that i am in some way worshiping false prophets. I enjoy music, art literature, and beauty, and i see all these as forms of worship to god, and by enjoying and observing others worshiping, am i then no longer worshipping? No. There are many ways that with a closed interpretation of peoples writings you could deem them to mean something a lot less like what they intended. It is easy to to be brought up and guided into a manipulated mode of interpretation, and if you have pre conceptions, and dont take a text at face value, then it is easy to be guided by your pre conceptions. Any way it is pointless for me to argue. I can say that for myself, if a christian told me that they were using magick in a way that did not compromise the teachings of jesus christ (whos are the teachings that a "christian" follows - hence christ-ian), and was being used for altruistic purposes in terms of themselves and others, then i would say to them that i beleive that that is ok. But that i am in no way more of an authority than a priest, as they are no more of an authority than me. We both have access to the same books. But unlike many of them, i have read the book of enoch, and the gospel of thomas, and that of mary, and stil it is useless for us to compare our interpretaions for you. Only you can make up your own mind. In listening to two opposing points of view, in the end it is still up to you to "decide" which you agree with. God gave us free wil, and a choice. This ability to choose goes far beyond the duality of good and evil. And this should always be remembered when anyone is trying to tell you that something is good or evil.

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Animalia   Religions   Nov 25 2006, 07:26 PM
Joseph   Greetings, The question whether Magic(k) is OK...   Nov 25 2006, 08:31 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   In addition to Joseph's observation that magic...   Nov 26 2006, 12:12 AM
Acid09   I think the only way to know if practicing magick ...   Dec 1 2006, 04:27 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   :lol!: True that. You wouldn't be much of...   Dec 1 2006, 05:52 PM
Joseph   Greetings Acid 09, I speak for myself in this ...   Dec 1 2006, 07:26 PM
extinctionspasm   Well im not a catholic, but i would call myself a ...   Dec 3 2006, 07:01 AM
Enochian   If you are a Christian Majic is a no go. Christia...   Dec 4 2006, 10:44 AM
extinctionspasm   Enochians comments here are not entirtely correct....   Dec 4 2006, 09:00 PM
TiacSway   I would have to agree with extinctionspasm. I...   Dec 4 2006, 10:46 PM
Enochian   First of all prayer is not majic. A mage does no w...   Dec 5 2006, 12:22 PM
Acid09   Levicticus is still in the Church canon. It detail...   Dec 5 2006, 04:27 PM
Enochian   Dont get me wrong guys. I believe that anything go...   Dec 6 2006, 12:42 PM
Faustopheles   Greetings, This is a really interesting discussio...   Dec 6 2006, 01:18 PM
extinctionspasm   It is my vain and arrogant opinion that the last t...   Dec 6 2006, 07:55 PM
TiacSway   I'd like to point this out: If you really ...   Dec 6 2006, 10:56 PM
extinctionspasm   In my opinion prayer is magick. You shouldn't ...   Dec 7 2006, 12:59 AM
DeathStalker   In my opinion prayer is magick. You shouldn't ...   Dec 7 2006, 03:05 AM
Bb3   dude, where the hell were all of you when I posted...   Dec 7 2006, 06:24 AM
DeathStalker   dude, where the hell were all of you when I posted...   Dec 7 2006, 07:00 AM
Enochian   The roots of Christianity come from paganism. It d...   Dec 7 2006, 11:33 AM
DeathStalker   The roots of Christianity come from paganism. It d...   Dec 7 2006, 06:43 PM
Faustopheles   Greetings DeathStalker, The hypocrisy which cause...   Dec 7 2006, 07:47 PM
DeathStalker   Greetings DeathStalker, The hypocrisy which cause...   Dec 7 2006, 09:33 PM
Enochian   Disorder is fine as long as it is no longer the pl...   Dec 7 2006, 07:52 PM
extinctionspasm   As i said before language is a funny thing. We can...   Dec 7 2006, 08:58 PM
Enochian   I dont think disorder really needs to be. As long ...   Dec 10 2006, 05:12 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I dont think disorder really needs to be. As long ...   Dec 10 2006, 06:46 PM
Enochian   Yes you got me on that one friend in that case ANA...   Dec 10 2006, 07:27 PM
waldoworld   I am also a strong christian I was just here to do...   Jan 6 2007, 08:49 PM
DeathStalker   The power and protection of the blood of Christ ac...   Jan 6 2007, 10:27 PM
Joseph   I am also a strong christian I was just here to do...   Jan 7 2007, 05:52 AM
waldoworld   Greetings Waldoworld, You come quoting scriptu...   Jan 7 2007, 06:23 PM
DeathStalker   I come not to convert that is not my interest I ju...   Jan 7 2007, 07:15 PM

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