Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 Roman Catholic Worried...
JackConnor
post Dec 6 2006, 02:20 AM
Post #1


Neophyte
Group Icon
Posts: 15
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: none




As you can tell from the topic title, all this stuff interests me and I'd like to be able to perform some of it, but everything about the Golden Dawn, Hermeticism, and Ceremonial Magick in general tends to freak me out. I'm a Roman Catholic and I'm obscenely worried about my spiritual self getting into some trouble by doing this stuff. Are there any 'Judeo-Christian' roots to these rituals? I mean it doesn't take a lot to notice the archangels and God's names in the rituals, but seeing videos of people using sinister voices and generally acting like they want to be Lucifer's best friend during said rituals is a little worrisome.

If anyone has any advice for me I'd really appreciate it. I want to be closer with my HGA and thereby God by doing a little magick everyday, I desperately want Him to work through me, but what if unwittingly I allow myself to be worked by an entity with less than amiable goals? Etc., etc.

Thanks in advance..

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post


 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
Radiant Star
post Dec 6 2006, 03:07 AM
Post #2


Theoricus
Group Icon
Posts: 766
Age: N/A
Gender: Female
Reputation: 3 pts




I think maybe just go with what you truly, deeply feel comfortable with.

All of the modern day church stuff sits upon a history that runs right from cavemen, through, Mayans, Aztecs, Ancient Greek gods etc etc etc. It is a system that developed according to political and spiritual need of the day. It has good points, it has hindrances.

It is not so much whether you should take up Magick, but do some deep searching and see if it calls you and why. Its like most things, many will pick it up and it will either be the love of their life or it will lead them onto something else as they are exploring.

Churches can sometimes make us dependent on their rules and ideals; we have expectations that they have it right but if it is not right for you, you can make yourself miserable for years trying to make it all fit, but in the end, you will have to find your own path.

Besides that, you don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater, there are Catholic priests and laity who practice CM and find no conflict.

I think it depends on why you want to do the magick and what kind of magick.

And of course, don't forget that the mass is virtually a magickal ritual, but what is important is what they are trying to achieve with that.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

JackConnor
post Dec 6 2006, 04:52 PM
Post #3


Neophyte
Group Icon
Posts: 15
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: none




QUOTE(Radiant Star @ Dec 6 2006, 04:07 AM) *
I think maybe just go with what you truly, deeply feel comfortable with.

All of the modern day church stuff sits upon a history that runs right from cavemen, through, Mayans, Aztecs, Ancient Greek gods etc etc etc. It is a system that developed according to political and spiritual need of the day. It has good points, it has hindrances.

It is not so much whether you should take up Magick, but do some deep searching and see if it calls you and why. Its like most things, many will pick it up and it will either be the love of their life or it will lead them onto something else as they are exploring.

Churches can sometimes make us dependent on their rules and ideals; we have expectations that they have it right but if it is not right for you, you can make yourself miserable for years trying to make it all fit, but in the end, you will have to find your own path.

Besides that, you don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater, there are Catholic priests and laity who practice CM and find no conflict.

I think it depends on why you want to do the magick and what kind of magick.

And of course, don't forget that the mass is virtually a magickal ritual, but what is important is what they are trying to achieve with that.


I just keep coming back to it in my life. I go through cycles of depression and at the end of each cycle I always end up coming back to this stuff and it seems to snap me out of it. It comes from an honest want to be part of something bigger, but not through any selfish purposes. Wanting to make a difference by God's will if you catch my meaning.

IT's not that I'd have to throw the baby out of the bathwater or anything, but it's perturbing that people of the opposite mind than myself, using magick for decidedly evil and selfish gains, could be using these same rituals I would be attempting. Why are they able to get results? And if I get results, why am I not in the same boat as them? I don't know if I'm explaining it correctly..

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post


Posts in this topic
JackConnor   Roman Catholic Worried...   Dec 6 2006, 02:20 AM
Radiant Star   IT's not that I'd have to throw the baby o...   Dec 7 2006, 04:26 AM
The Sorceress   the mass is virtually a magickal ritual, but what ...   Apr 28 2007, 02:34 PM
Enochian   Hmmm maybe i can help. Im no mage but i am a pract...   Dec 6 2006, 06:07 PM
Acid09   I think a certain degree of introspection is in or...   Dec 6 2006, 06:59 PM
JackConnor   Hmmm maybe i can help. Im no mage but i am a pract...   Dec 6 2006, 09:33 PM
gmcbroom   I might be wrong but doesn't santeria and Vood...   Dec 6 2006, 09:12 PM
DeathStalker   Hey man my best suggestion to you would be to stud...   Dec 6 2006, 11:42 PM
Frater Yechidah   Satanists don't use the LBRP, to my knowledge,...   Dec 7 2006, 07:13 AM
Nero   I am catholic as well and I practice ceremonial ma...   Dec 7 2006, 08:33 AM
Pilgrim Child   Both Paul Foster Case and W.E.Butler served as pri...   Dec 7 2006, 01:19 PM
JackConnor   Wow, suffice it to say there's a lot of stuff ...   Dec 7 2006, 03:07 PM
Enochian   This thread has progressed nicely. I like the ide...   Dec 12 2006, 01:45 PM
waldoworld   I see this question over and over again and I gu...   Jan 10 2007, 07:55 PM
Lucian   Ave I dare to disagree with you waldoworld. The k...   Jan 11 2007, 03:53 AM
business voodoo   hi ... most of what everyone practices is ritual b...   Jan 15 2007, 02:04 AM
Bb3   Ave I dare to disagree with you waldoworld. The k...   Jan 15 2007, 09:33 AM
Enochian   Hmmm i agree with most right up until the end here...   Jan 15 2007, 10:46 AM
business voodoo   enochian ... i totally feel you as that is exactly...   Jan 15 2007, 02:52 PM
Enochian   Thanks Business. This topic came up for me prior t...   Jan 15 2007, 03:54 PM
Lucian   Ave Enochian, I will edit this later, but one thi...   Jan 16 2007, 12:30 AM
Enochian   LOL yes i know the two are not the same. The simon...   Jan 16 2007, 10:58 AM
plainsight   God and Lucifer don't exactly play on the same...   Jan 17 2007, 12:29 PM
Enochian   Thats all good. But i think his point is if he can...   Jan 17 2007, 02:12 PM
esoterica   been there, done that - just keep your mouth shut ...   Jan 17 2007, 04:38 PM
Eyes of God   John, I have felt exactly the way that you have. ...   Jan 19 2007, 12:42 AM
BrotherM   believe it or not, I was a Catholic as well. I wen...   Jan 25 2007, 08:35 AM
dynajam   If anyone has any advice for me I'd really app...   Jan 25 2007, 03:20 PM
Sero Sed Serio   Hi I am new to this forum, having just joined tod...   Feb 8 2007, 04:47 PM
Lucian   Ave The famous magickal son of Crowley, Frater Ac...   Feb 8 2007, 06:59 PM
Khenti_Amenti   Ave The famous magickal son of Crowley, Frater Ac...   Apr 28 2007, 10:11 AM
redbreast   Jack, you've been given some great advice and ...   Apr 25 2007, 07:28 PM
extinctionspasm   This existence is vast. There is so much to all of...   May 11 2007, 10:41 AM
tyrian   To want desperately for God to work through you is...   Jun 10 2007, 08:30 PM
Frater526   93! Wuuuuhhhh. That is an argument I often ...   Jun 23 2007, 12:22 PM
Kranos   As you can tell from the topic title, all this stu...   Jun 23 2007, 06:32 PM
JackConnor   I mean wow. I just came back to this site, (there...   Jul 17 2007, 07:27 PM

Closed
Topic Notes
Reply to this topicStart new topic

Collapse

Similar Topics

Topic Title Replies Topic Starter Views Last Action
No entries to display

12 User(s) are reading this topic (12 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 24th November 2024 - 03:55 PM