Reincarnation? Options

Can anyone give me some good arguments for Reincarnation?

I have myself quarreled inside when it comes to this topic.
I prefer however to keep disciplins apart and keep the Relegio/Mystical to it self and not blend in natural science.

Scientifically the most importand factor defining life is procreation.

Since most of my spirtual work has been Hermetic and Kabbalistic i tend to see thing through those traditions.

The "wheel" of rebirth, or Samsara of the Hindus does not really have an equivalent in either Kabbala or Hermetisism even if the "climbing" towards the light of anihilation, Nirvana does (in the case of Kabbala it would be Kether).

I HAVE however speculated in the sphere of Yesod, working as a final matrix for creation might harbour som "stuff" or "memories", patterns of the created on the way up after death and that energy of a sort corresponding might "grab" it in going down to be created.

This could explain being reborn as severel different people as one Dalai Lama was.

This is not well thought through Kabbala or canonic in anyway though.
My main concern is the here and now.

Sometimes rather naive arguments like "the little flowers returning in spring" are used. Thing is, its not the same flowers. They procreated and rotted.

*Feed the worms*

This is really good!!!

In reality, if we are to practice and understand Magick then we in turn would need to understand science. With that said there really is no proof of reincarnation except save the "personal" experiences each one of us encounters in our lives.

Personally I want tio believe and actually do...but the proof is very slim at best. In magick we need repeatable results likewise the proof of reincarnation is not tangible but of a personal level that only you can answer.

In short - there is no one definitive answer

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This post has been edited by mandrake: Nov 26 2006, 03:18 PM

This is really good!!!

In reality, if we are to practice and understand Magick then we in turn would need to understand science. With that said there really is no proof of reincarnation except save the "personal" experiences each one of us encounters in our lives.

Personally I want tio believe and actually do...but the proof is very slim at best. In magick we need repeatable results likewise the proof of reincarnation is not tangible but of a personal level that only you can answer.

In short - there is no one definitive answer

X

The problem with scientists is that they do not try and work with spirituality to attain best results. Had they tried to prove reincarnation wrong or right they'd be way ahead of the game, but they're just too materialistic. Its just like physics, physics deals with the physical materialistic world, but "meta-physics" or "beyond-physics" (Greek), deals with the astral, etheric, spiritual, mind, etc... Now together they come up with more truth to them. The smarter thing to do is to coalesce Science with Spiritualism for better benefits, but the western society is too blind for this.

Those who have talked to dead spirits (primarly mediums and necromancers) have said that there IS a reincarnation, now have any scientists attempted to prove it wrong or right? No.

The point of the matter is; the universal matters are beyond science, science is true to a point, but needs to coalesce with spirituality to make the bullet proof points.

This post has been edited by DeathStalker: Dec 7 2006, 03:34 AM