Speed Induced "hallucinations" Options

Now I know that everybody who has experienced "hallucinations" from staying up days on methamphetamine will almost always put it down to speed induced psychosis but after having a very lifelike conversation with a voice in after 3 days of sleep deprivation and lack of food im starting to question how imaginary these so called hallucinations really are.

Im interested in hearing opinions on the subject from occultists. I had no idea what psionics were until I had this experience. The voice talked about all sorts of things but at one point it said "Seeing as your more in tune with this dimension where deceased people reside, I can send you psionic frequencies". Also the voice asked me if it was my first psychedelic encounter.

Another very strange detail was the fact that after the voice told me it was going to give me a wet willy I actually felt a cold finger poke me in the back. It either felt like a cold finger or cold water seeping through my t-shirt.

Alot of very strange and unexplainable things happened. The voice seemed hellbent on convincing me I was dead too. It wanted me to face a certain direction and I noticed when I did the voice would get louder and more intense. At one point the voice said "Now that I have his undivided attention, I concentrate on his frontal lobe". I felt hands on each side of my face after that.

Something fairly strange that happened was after the voice told me I was going to get carpol tunnel syndrome my hands went ice cold and started sweating excessively for no logical reason.

Should I just assume it was my subconscious speaking to me or was there something else involved? The reason I posted in the psionics forum is because of that statement it made about psionic frequencies. I might have heard about psionics but I didnt know exactly what it was at the time.

I'd throw in marijuana, x and datura seeds to your list there Enochian, thats just me.

Not to mention psilocybin containing mushrooms, amanita mushrooms and above all the almighty DMT. By the way gymsen weeds just another name for Datura stramonium from what I gather. Ive never tried opium but I never considered it as a spiritual drug.

There are also hundreds of less known substances which have shamanic uses.

Take a look at my website:
http://www.plantsofthegods.net/
http://www.plantsofthegods.net/?get=botany...pe=psychoactive (Psychoactive plants page)


I dont have time to edit it much but im planning on putting a proper shamanism section and a magick section eventually. It will concentrate on ritual uses of psychoactive plants and drugs.

I agree with you that marijuana and X are good drugs to use for spiritual purposes but they both have high abuse potentials. Most psychedelics are the opposite.

Theres another aspect of psychedelics which you seem to be missing. Over the years I didnt take mushrooms, salvia, DMT to perform magick or rituals. I used them to open up doors in mind, let extra information flow in, and use parts of my brain I never could in my ordinary waking state.

I believe using psychedelics in the right scenarios can be incredibly benificial in attaining knowledge and increasing your mind power. I see them as tools. I dont see them as replacements for meditation or magick. I see them as tools which can accelerate and increase to ability to meditate and perform magick.

Anybody that puts psychedelics like psilocybin, salvia, DMT, datura, etc. in the same both as drugs like methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin etc. obviously have no idea what psychedelics are all about. Its out of ignorance people consider those psychedelics as addictive and destructive drugs. In the case of cannabis I think its somewhere in between a psychedelic and a recreational drug.
Hard to define it as a psychedelic drug then again its hard not to.

This post has been edited by Xochipilli: Dec 7 2006, 03:48 PM