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Is magick ok for other religions because I am a very strong christian.
PS. to mods, if this is in the wrong place, I'm sorry, and please correct me.

As i said before language is a funny thing. We can mean exactly the same thing as someone else and due to the fact that we choos different combinations of words, we convince eachother that we are disagreeing. Yet the vision that we base the symbol of language on, is in fact very similar. This is why we who practice magick need to at all times be conscious of what the symbols symbolise. It is easy with simple maths to prove that you cannot hit a golf ball. Yet we all know that we can.

The roots of christianity lie in the words and actions of Jesus Christ. On what he based his teachings is all purely speculation. The dogma and doctrine that is preached by employees of many churches today, ie priests, is based on more than just the techings of jesus christ, in fact often these take a second place to torahdic first testament teachings, much of which jesus said was old hat, and was to be disregarded and replaced by the new spiritual paradigm that he preached.

Anyway there are many who feel or at least observe the effects of false doctrine that is currently preached in the name of "christianity", and on this basis christianity is often condemned. It should be remembered though that there are many out there who claim to be occultists that are realy just full of crap, and couldnt tell an aethyr from an ahswhole, yet we dont then assume that all occultism is then boolschit. No we realise that there are pople who twist and manipulate the words of since passed great people, and use them to their own advantage. But we should not assume then that all who agree with the words of such a person, agree with the manipulated contemporary interpretations of their words. Rather we should not insult our own intellects, by lowering ourselves to the same level who believe everything they are told, and not assume that all who are told believe, or that they have the same interpretation. Philosophy classes at unis wouldnt exist if we allowed ourselves to be informed with so little investigation or critique.

Anyway, i think that everyone so far in this conversation, has a sinilar view of the way the world is now, and where we think it should be, i may be wrong but i think we have let semantics get in the way a bit - but this is to be expected among intelligent people. Its good to know that people actually read what you write and think about it.

And so in response to death stalker thanks for your rebuff on my ideas about prayer. In a way i agree with you but the way i would say it though is that:

Thought + Desire + Will = Prayer; but

Though + Desire + Will + Consciousness (that we are utilising the previous; and of the self; and more) = Magick

But again this may all be just another case of semantics. Anyway im glad this forum exists. Its good to be able to have a decent conversation about this stuff with people who arent just pretending to know what they are talking about. Thanks!!!!