Speed Induced "hallucinations" Options

Now I know that everybody who has experienced "hallucinations" from staying up days on methamphetamine will almost always put it down to speed induced psychosis but after having a very lifelike conversation with a voice in after 3 days of sleep deprivation and lack of food im starting to question how imaginary these so called hallucinations really are.

Im interested in hearing opinions on the subject from occultists. I had no idea what psionics were until I had this experience. The voice talked about all sorts of things but at one point it said "Seeing as your more in tune with this dimension where deceased people reside, I can send you psionic frequencies". Also the voice asked me if it was my first psychedelic encounter.

Another very strange detail was the fact that after the voice told me it was going to give me a wet willy I actually felt a cold finger poke me in the back. It either felt like a cold finger or cold water seeping through my t-shirt.

Alot of very strange and unexplainable things happened. The voice seemed hellbent on convincing me I was dead too. It wanted me to face a certain direction and I noticed when I did the voice would get louder and more intense. At one point the voice said "Now that I have his undivided attention, I concentrate on his frontal lobe". I felt hands on each side of my face after that.

Something fairly strange that happened was after the voice told me I was going to get carpol tunnel syndrome my hands went ice cold and started sweating excessively for no logical reason.

Should I just assume it was my subconscious speaking to me or was there something else involved? The reason I posted in the psionics forum is because of that statement it made about psionic frequencies. I might have heard about psionics but I didnt know exactly what it was at the time.

I'd throw in marijuana, x and datura seeds to your list there Enochian, thats just me.

Drugs can be used for spiritual purposes. I would not dispute that. Its just that most people do not have a clue (especially about the proper doses) about what they are doing prior to introducing drugs. I'd bet many people are not even engaging in any kind of ritual, other than maybe passing the bong around (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . Imo, the root motivation is simply to trip and get high, not find anything truely revealing or spiritual. Then people have a tendency to experience intense hallucinations under these circumstances try to make sense of it by finding some spiritual meaning to it.

lol don't tell him to go to rehab. Have you ever been to rehab Acid09? He is going to a thai Buddhist temple and that will help him more then those retarded social workers can.

I suggested it because if a person is truely interested in quiting drugs then a decent rehab center can provide them with the support and knowledge to do so. It just takes the frame of mind that one wants to quit. A Buddhist temple is a fine alternative, though I think it will focus mainly on Buddhism and not drug use. Thats the difference between any temple and rehab. Rehab specifically goes after the drugs.

Quite frankly, where I learned a lot of my shit on drugs was out-patient rehab. Granted it was imposed on me by the courts though. And I don't think I passed many piss tests either, at least not until I realized that if I didn't go sober for awhile I'd end up back in jail - where I learned most everything else I know about drugs. And, imo the councelors at rehab were a far less pain than probation officers, let alone corrupt prison guards - those guys have you by nuts 24/7.

I'd throw in marijuana, x and datura seeds to your list there Enochian, thats just me.

Drugs can be used for spiritual purposes. I would not dispute that. Its just that most people do not have a clue (especially about the proper doses) about what they are doing prior to introducing drugs. I'd bet many people are not even engaging in any kind of ritual, other than maybe passing the bong around (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . Imo, the root motivation is simply to trip and get high, not find anything truely revealing or spiritual. Then people have a tendency to experience intense hallucinations under these circumstances try to make sense of it by finding some spiritual meaning to it.

I suggested it because if a person is truely interested in quiting drugs then a decent rehab center can provide them with the support and knowledge to do so. It just takes the frame of mind that one wants to quit. A Buddhist temple is a fine alternative, though I think it will focus mainly on Buddhism and not drug use. Thats the difference between any temple and rehab. Rehab specifically goes after the drugs.

Quite frankly, where I learned a lot of my shit on drugs was out-patient rehab. Granted it was imposed on me by the courts though. And I don't think I passed many piss tests either, at least not until I realized that if I didn't go sober for awhile I'd end up back in jail - where I learned most everything else I know about drugs. And, imo the councelors at rehab were a far less pain than probation officers, let alone corrupt prison guards - those guys have you by nuts 24/7.

only time rahab is usful is when you have horrid withdrawl symptoms. Such as when an alcoholic who has been drinking for years everyday trys to quit. The alcoholic will most likely get life threating DT's, and the only way to get through it safely is through detox at a rehab center.

Ah you went through drug court huh? Well the counslors are of course going to be nicer they go through school knowing damn well they are going to make shit money, so it has to be a calling. The only time someone will get clean is if they really want to, nothing else will help them.

This post has been edited by distillate: Dec 8 2006, 12:55 PM