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There's a lot of references on many texts that rephrase versions of the "god that dwells within each of us".

How do you personally relate and define this idea/concept in your personal world?

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post Dec 4 2006, 02:43 PM
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God is a being so endless and complex that we could never really understand its true nature let alone articulate it through our limmited minds. I think God is so advanced beyond our understanding that it can only be expressed as the existance of all that is, was, or ever will be simotaneously, not all and everything inbetween.


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QUOTE(Acid09 @ Dec 4 2006, 12:43 PM) *
God is a being so endless and complex that we could never really understand its true nature let alone articulate it through our limmited minds. I think God is so advanced beyond our understanding that it can only be expressed as the existance of all that is, was, or ever will be simotaneously, not all and everything inbetween.


True, and in alien dimensions "life" itself may seem meaningless to us. The "being" of a spirit could totally have a different meaning in dimensions we've not even heard of, how can one determine how big existance is? And what is our definition of "GOD"? not "our" seperate Gods that we abide with, but GOD itself, all, everything.

Its not a question to have an answer to.

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QUOTE(DeathStalker @ Dec 4 2006, 04:39 PM) *
True, and in alien dimensions "life" itself may seem meaningless to us. The "being" of a spirit could totally have a different meaning in dimensions we've not even heard of, how can one determine how big existance is? And what is our definition of "GOD"? not "our" seperate Gods that we abide with, but GOD itself, all, everything.

Its not a question to have an answer to.


Hmmm.... I believe God is hard to reach. One must be a man of great discipline. And as much as we hate to admit it sometimes. Sin seperates us from God. God will not cause us to be better human beings. We must willfully be a good person. God sees what we do. And he has his an angel that watches us and reports what we do according to our works. So does God dwell in the average human being I believe not.

Great Prophets like David had the luxury of having God dwell within them. But only because those men were commited to God and fallowed his laws and kept them. God knows everything including the hearts of man.

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post Dec 9 2006, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(GoDmAn777 @ Dec 9 2006, 03:20 PM) *
Hmmm.... I believe God is hard to reach. One must be a man of great discipline. And as much as we hate to admit it sometimes. Sin seperates us from God. God will not cause us to be better human beings. We must willfully be a good person. God sees what we do. And he has his an angel that watches us and reports what we do according to our works. So does God dwell in the average human being I believe not.

Great Prophets like David had the luxury of having God dwell within them. But only because those men were commited to God and fallowed his laws and kept them. God knows everything including the hearts of man.


You see, many people, primarly christians, view "their God" as the God. What I say is not viewing an Entity as ALL and NOTHING, but all and nothing as the creator itself. I believe in all other Gods in being part of one god. Who created your God?

You also have to know that God is not about "good/evil", Good/Evil itself in this materialistic world are nothing compared to universal matters. For something to be the "all and nothing" he and she has to be both dark and light, both good and evil (if you choose to believe in that), and everything.

You see I abide by a God, My God, but I do not see him as the creator of everything, the creator of me? yes, but not everything and nothing, for he would have to be much more lissome. I believe to be his blood, but I believe that he and I are also a the blood of the energy in which all and nothing co-exist and thus "GOD".

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QUOTE(DeathStalker @ Dec 9 2006, 08:26 PM) *
You see, many people, primarly christians, view "their God" as the God. What I say is not viewing an Entity as ALL and NOTHING, but all and nothing as the creator itself. I believe in all other Gods in being part of one god. Who created your God?

You also have to know that God is not about "good/evil", Good/Evil itself in this materialistic world are nothing compared to universal matters. For something to be the "all and nothing" he and she has to be both dark and light, both good and evil (if you choose to believe in that), and everything.

You see I abide by a God, My God, but I do not see him as the creator of everything, the creator of me? yes, but not everything and nothing, for he would have to be much more lissome. I believe to be his blood, but I believe that he and I are also a the blood of the energy in which all and nothing co-exist and thus "GOD".


I do not label myself as a christian for christians in my view falsly interpret the bible due to ministers and false prophets. Let me now give you an overview of my spiritual philosophy pertaining to God and magick. One most also believe in the old and new testamennts in the bible but only to a certain extent. It is evident in the magickal world that spirits like satan and other demons and angels exist. Which so happen to be mentioned in the bible. Now this is how you label God and his charecteristics along with what has been created. Its simple John1-3 All things were made by him and without him was anything made that was made. Isaiah44:6 I am the first and I am the last and beside me there is no God. Psalms 5:4 For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickednes, Nor shall evil dwell with You. Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, id so be that the spirit of God dwell in you.

Now you can have your own God wether it be an image, a spirit, another person, or even yourself. But the fact is that the one God that is above all names does not dwell with a sinful mind. One must be of a sinless nature and in tune with the God of the bible. Which is very hard. Based on my experience. There have been times when I tried to be perfect and sinless as much as possible. Because I wanted to experience more of God. But I failed and I went farther away from God. I still communicate with God verbaly but he no longer touches me the way he used to. But I still try now and than. I asked God to help me deal with my sins to take them away from me. But he WONT. One must will to be a good man he wont do it for you. The church would make you to believe that with a prayer God forgets your sins which is true. But than they say that God magicaly causes you to sin no more which is not true. Sure the holy spirit helps IF God gives it to you. But if you lose and offend that Holy spirit your in really deap trouble. Which is why God is usually reluctant do give it to you.

So you have to accept that the true God is above all the other Gods in the world. As evident with King Solomon in the lesser and greater keys of Solomon. he clearly acknowleges that the God in the bible is the most high. And it is that same God that granted him power over the demons. For in Genesis he gives man over all the beast of the field and all the fowls of the air. Now don't get me wrong God is omnipresent everywhere everytime. But to say that God is more intimate with every soul and that he is like a dad pardening all of man's sin is total opposite of his nature. Dwelling within the soul of every man I don't think so. Though your lesser God whatever it may be than that may be the true case.

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post Dec 10 2006, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(GoDmAn777 @ Dec 10 2006, 05:33 AM) *
I do not label myself as a christian for christians in my view falsly interpret the bible due to ministers and false prophets. Let me now give you an overview of my spiritual philosophy pertaining to God and magick. One most also believe in the old and new testamennts in the bible but only to a certain extent. It is evident in the magickal world that spirits like satan and other demons and angels exist. Which so happen to be mentioned in the bible. Now this is how you label God and his charecteristics along with what has been created. Its simple John1-3 All things were made by him and without him was anything made that was made. Isaiah44:6 I am the first and I am the last and beside me there is no God. Psalms 5:4 For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickednes, Nor shall evil dwell with You. Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, id so be that the spirit of God dwell in you.

Now you can have your own God wether it be an image, a spirit, another person, or even yourself. But the fact is that the one God that is above all names does not dwell with a sinful mind. One must be of a sinless nature and in tune with the God of the bible. Which is very hard. Based on my experience. There have been times when I tried to be perfect and sinless as much as possible. Because I wanted to experience more of God. But I failed and I went farther away from God. I still communicate with God verbaly but he no longer touches me the way he used to. But I still try now and than. I asked God to help me deal with my sins to take them away from me. But he WONT. One must will to be a good man he wont do it for you. The church would make you to believe that with a prayer God forgets your sins which is true. But than they say that God magicaly causes you to sin no more which is not true. Sure the holy spirit helps IF God gives it to you. But if you lose and offend that Holy spirit your in really deap trouble. Which is why God is usually reluctant do give it to you.

So you have to accept that the true God is above all the other Gods in the world. As evident with King Solomon in the lesser and greater keys of Solomon. he clearly acknowleges that the God in the bible is the most high. And it is that same God that granted him power over the demons. For in Genesis he gives man over all the beast of the field and all the fowls of the air. Now don't get me wrong God is omnipresent everywhere everytime. But to say that God is more intimate with every soul and that he is like a dad pardening all of man's sin is total opposite of his nature. Dwelling within the soul of every man I don't think so. Though your lesser God whatever it may be than that may be the true case.


I know that the below won't change anything because you've already been touched by the essence of Jehova, and won't listen to what I have to say; but i'll ask for you to just kindly view my perception of "God".

The true God to me is not dark or light, not good or evil, not male or female, he and she is all and every. He and she is the universe and all other universes, he and she is what we are. I am black you are white, you are good I am evil, I am white you are black, you are bad I am good, regardless, we are one, and we fullfill the "all and nothing".

To this world what seems to be a "sin" may not in other dimensions, other worlds. Infact, to you what may be a sin, may not to me, or to others of different perceptions.

Now I may say that I beleive the "ONE" is what he/she is, but don't take my word for it, because i'll be honest with you, I DONT KNOW!

And that is the best explanation. But if you are going to say this or that is a sin and thus "the god" which is also "your god" will not tolerate "false behaviour?"

So are we the only living beings in this world? Is the ONE AND ONLY only concentrated on us? what makes us so special? are we like demi-gods?

See this is one of the problems we have when faith and logic collide.

To be all and nothing means to be beyond sin, beyond good and evil, something fathomless of our minds. And for the record, I don't see the one and only as anything I can even imagine with my mind.

I'm sorry I would've believed what you said above, had it been years ago, but I don't any longer, I have begun to doubt everything and replace it with logic.

If I am to burn in hell, so be it, i'll burn with pride and not ignorance.

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+ Kinjo -   God Dwells Within You   Nov 30 2006, 09:35 PM
netzgewebe   There's a lot of references on many texts that...   Dec 1 2006, 12:53 PM
Enochian   Each of us is made in the likeness. There is a sma...   Dec 1 2006, 01:53 PM
be_the_one   Heres a great link that touches on this topic pret...   Dec 1 2006, 03:07 PM
extinctionspasm   God is the all that is within all who are within g...   Dec 1 2006, 08:51 PM
DeathStalker   We are all one, God is us, we are God, the univers...   Dec 4 2006, 05:04 AM
GoDmAn777   The true God to me is not dark or light, not good ...   Dec 10 2006, 10:02 AM
DeathStalker   In all due respect Death stalker. You failed to gi...   Dec 10 2006, 11:36 AM
Ouroboros   I seriously recommend that you research pre-judaic...   Dec 10 2006, 03:00 PM
DeathStalker   A monarch said to a hermit, "Come with me and...   Dec 11 2006, 08:54 AM
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Isaiah   Oh, why not, I'll add my two cents. We contro...   Dec 12 2006, 10:50 PM
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