Reincarnation? Options

Can anyone give me some good arguments for Reincarnation?

I have myself quarreled inside when it comes to this topic.
I prefer however to keep disciplins apart and keep the Relegio/Mystical to it self and not blend in natural science.

Scientifically the most importand factor defining life is procreation.

Since most of my spirtual work has been Hermetic and Kabbalistic i tend to see thing through those traditions.

The "wheel" of rebirth, or Samsara of the Hindus does not really have an equivalent in either Kabbala or Hermetisism even if the "climbing" towards the light of anihilation, Nirvana does (in the case of Kabbala it would be Kether).

I HAVE however speculated in the sphere of Yesod, working as a final matrix for creation might harbour som "stuff" or "memories", patterns of the created on the way up after death and that energy of a sort corresponding might "grab" it in going down to be created.

This could explain being reborn as severel different people as one Dalai Lama was.

This is not well thought through Kabbala or canonic in anyway though.
My main concern is the here and now.

Sometimes rather naive arguments like "the little flowers returning in spring" are used. Thing is, its not the same flowers. They procreated and rotted.

*Feed the worms*

I went ahead and merged this thread with a pre-existing thread.

When it comes to reincarnation I think we should consider life, death, the after life and rebirth and the forces that could potentially cause the phenomenon. In order for there to be life on Earth, as we know it, there must an organic structure for it to exist. The type of structure determines its nature (bird as a pose to lion or bacteria). This is only a termporary vehicle for a life form. All life eventually ends, in its mundane earthly form.

Now suppose that there is an energy say "life force" that continues on after life. Death and the after life would be interwined so much so that it could be argued they are one in the same. What this stage of existance could mean is a sort of "reconstruction" period. What I mean is this energy that dwells within life forms evolves and death/afterlife is the a temporary staging ground for it to reconstruct itself. This is where a force such as karma could come into play. One's karma determines the out come of the evolution of their life force. The final result is the emergance into a new life.

There are several facotors to consider - for one, the nature of an individuals death. Now suppose the way somebody dies further influences reincarnation. To put it in another way -how we die determines how our life force is released from our bodies. Theoretically, to die of natural causes would be the most prefferable way because this form of dying means their life force has reached a peak maturity, sort of like how wine ages. Though some bodies may be able to mature longer than others (we don't die a specific time, or bodies just of decay to the point where they can no longer life). To die prematurely means the life force would reincarnate as a lesser life form (or forms as its possible out life force can fill several other creatures), but would still retain its original qualities. So like the guy on terminator 2, eventually reconglomerate into a higher life form. Then there is the matter of consciousness. Personally, I believe when our bodies die our physical consciousness goes with it. Only bits and pieces of memory, not consciousness, remain embeded in the life force and have the potential to travel with the life force as it reincarnates. But who you are now is only until you die. Its you're life force that determines your individuallity, not your consciousness.