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post Dec 7 2006, 12:30 PM
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Dudes well as i am a fulltime Nec practitioner, so i post that in this section coz there might be smthing related to the Nec:



I have been waking earlier these days due to exams. when go out before sun rise, still in the dark, then the breeze is still cool, when you still get to feel the spiritual world energy, there is a sensing from the planet that i get. its a sort of saddness...



About 10 years back i was waking about 4am for revision also, and previously i felt lazy and dormant and a bit null concerning emotions, but now as i into the magical for a bit more that 1 yr, i can sense emotions....



This reminds me of Final fantasy where the dudes could hear the earths cries.

One thing i would like to metion is that since i got my Bandar, i no longer have nightmares as such. But once when a real powerful evil stuff got into our dimension, i sensed that through a nightmare. No Worries the evil is gone.

But since sometime i have been also getting dreams of Alien ships getting into earth and trying to kick our butts in ways thats horrible. Once i was even like tracked by sorts of helicopters but fortunately another army of helicopters came to flee that one.

Well these need interpretations, Seraphim told me that the helicopter might be a demon monitoring me and my Bandar and the spirits protecting me came to piss it off....



But coming back to the earth, i really wish the feelings i got are only my imagination. what i feel is that the earth showing it being destroyed. a sort of weeping as in the final fantasy movie. :-(



Anyone want to say something on this feeling.?



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post Dec 19 2006, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(A_Smoking_Fox @ Dec 19 2006, 02:57 PM) *
why would we destroy earth?
For what reason would we speed up the destruction of the current eco system.

For greed, for personal pleasure, for comfort and egotistical ease?
Certainly you are not advocating its demise on the premises of spiritual growth?
While it may be true that earth will recover eventually, that is like me beating the hell out of you saying the doctor will fix you up in a year or 20 after you come out of your coma...
And then me claiming, you don't mind being beat up, becouse what is 1 or 10 years of coma to you, you will recover anyway, and you will die at the end anyway too...
Then i could also state to the police, that if they would ask you about the beating, you would be really calm about it, since you know you will recover, and you have had a coma in the past too, so it doesn't matter at all.

Yet, i have nothing to gain by doing so, thats why i don't go around beating people up, it brings me nothing i need.

That is the same reason why i desire green energy, to live in symbiosm with the earth. Because it is possible, and becouse i have nothing to gain by earths destruction.
I take joy in walking in forests and fields, so i wish to keep them around.

Turn it like you wish, but nuking the hell out of earth, or speeding up its destruction will bring you nothing, it will not heighten your spirit at all.
On the contrary, such selfish destruction only strengthens your own ego and lessens your spirit, at least thats what i believe selfish behaviour does.



Greetings Smoking Fox,

Re- read my posts and you will see that I am merely arguing that it is impossible and egotistical for us to believe that we can destroy the earth.THe current ecosystem yes, but that is not the earth. As humans we want to hang on to that which is dear to us (our forests, etc.), but in the grand scheme of things the earth is not the one that will pay the price of our behaviors, we will.

I state as a hypothetical that perhaps we are here to annihilate ourselves and the current biological status quo in order to bring on a new cycle of creation. It is the Tabula Rasa paradigm. Such a pattern is evident in our human history (as pointed out by Enochian) and our planet's history (as pointed out by myself, Edunpanna, and Seraphin). Our existence, everything we have come to love about "nature" is only a tiny wrinkle in the existence of our planet.

As for the spirit-all I'm advocating is the destruction of the Ego. When you realize that "I am" from a non-dual perspective, meaning I am all (emanation/creation ), or I am nothing (contraction/destruction), then our petty worries about a-bombs and the current ecosystem become irreverent. My alchemical references in the previous posts are a metaphor to describe the processes through which the Planet evolves, not our own Great Work- for when our own Work is complete, we experience the gnosis that the spirit of the Earth is also us , for we are everything and nothing at once.

In sum, there is no point in speeding up the process of destruction intentionally. The destruction will come-either from the microcosm (our A-bombs) or from the macrocosm (another meteorite). It is this destruction that will pave the way for a new form of existence... From the ashes of a destroyed ecosystem, new and wonderful things emerge that paint life on this planet in a new light. It is the limitations of physical human life that make this concept difficult to grasp. A human lifetime is nothing. Think in thousands and hundred of thousands of years and you will come to see the beauty of this process in which we find ourselves. For this reason I embrace the destruction. After all, as the Ouroboros reminds us, alpha is omega and destruction is creation.

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mystick   Is The Earth Sad?   Dec 7 2006, 12:30 PM
Ashnook   In the Akkadian flood myth with Atra-Hasis, Enlil ...   Dec 7 2006, 10:43 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   i'm not certain about the earth. But i know i ...   Dec 8 2006, 06:29 AM
Wickedone   It is very sad to see the Earth being destroyed. ...   Dec 17 2006, 03:12 PM
Edunpanna   Greetings Wicked One, I totally agree about peopl...   Dec 18 2006, 12:53 AM
Enochian   The more sensitive we become the more in tune we a...   Dec 17 2006, 05:18 PM
DeathStalker   I heard from someone that America is the only coun...   Dec 17 2006, 08:05 PM
distillate   I agree with smasher. I am a vegan but if I actual...   Dec 18 2006, 02:38 PM
Enochian   I feel the end will be before us before the time o...   Dec 18 2006, 02:47 PM
Wickedone   I feel the end will be before us before the time o...   Dec 18 2006, 03:35 PM
distillate   Ahh yes I have heard this many times "If we d...   Dec 18 2006, 03:50 PM
Edunpanna   Greetings Wicked one, "How would you like it...   Dec 18 2006, 08:22 PM
Seraphim   Greetings, Wickedone, yah I understand where y...   Dec 18 2006, 04:15 PM
DarkGoddess   Indeed hunting is good for the hunted species over...   Dec 18 2006, 04:53 PM
distillate   Indeed hunting is good for the hunted species over...   Dec 18 2006, 05:04 PM
Faustopheles   I’m sick and tired about hearing people whin...   Dec 18 2006, 07:30 PM
distillate   I’m sick and tired about hearing people whine abou...   Dec 18 2006, 07:40 PM
Faustopheles   Wow I don't think I have ever agreed with some...   Dec 18 2006, 07:58 PM
mystick   I’m sick and tired about hearing people whine abou...   Dec 19 2006, 04:33 AM
Edunpanna   Greetings, At one time the Earth had no atmospher...   Dec 19 2006, 08:46 AM
Enochian   We add to the speed of the planets end yes. But so...   Dec 18 2006, 08:28 PM
distillate   We add to the speed of the planets end yes. But so...   Dec 18 2006, 08:45 PM
Enkidu   ANyone who says that the demon does not live among...   Dec 19 2006, 02:52 PM
DeathStalker   I dont know whether you read Rudolf Steiner he is ...   Dec 19 2006, 03:09 PM
distillate   I dont know whether you read Rudolf Steiner he is ...   Dec 19 2006, 06:41 PM
Seraphim   Wow, Faustopheles, that is very much the truth. I ...   Dec 18 2006, 08:30 PM
Enochian   The thoughts on what you say feel as if they are n...   Dec 18 2006, 08:44 PM
Enochian   I agree Faust. All that needs to be done to prove ...   Dec 18 2006, 08:47 PM
distillate   "We have a problem With no solution but to lo...   Dec 18 2006, 09:30 PM
Wickedone   Greetings Edunpanna, I don't see death as the...   Dec 18 2006, 09:52 PM
mystick   When you kill a human, the body will still be ther...   Dec 19 2006, 12:47 PM
distillate   When you kill a human, the body will still be ther...   Dec 19 2006, 06:35 PM
Faustopheles   Greetings Mystic, Maybe, or maybe you’ve watch...   Dec 19 2006, 01:14 PM
mystick   Maybe, or maybe you've watched Final Fantasy a...   Dec 20 2006, 12:29 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   why would we destroy earth? For what reason would ...   Dec 19 2006, 01:57 PM
Suxur-Mash596   I will suggest right now that this topic be moved ...   Dec 19 2006, 02:21 PM
Enochian   I believe that there are high level demons that co...   Dec 19 2006, 03:04 PM
Enochian   This does need a new thread but is interesting. ...   Dec 19 2006, 05:04 PM
DeathStalker   That's true. In my opinion the only "n...   Dec 19 2006, 07:10 PM
Enochian   And thus the demon is influencing the government t...   Dec 19 2006, 07:45 PM
DeathStalker   And thus the demon is influencing the government t...   Dec 19 2006, 09:17 PM
Enochian   Me to my friend, me too. Its my own and well i dou...   Dec 19 2006, 09:27 PM
Faustopheles   what you meant by this! was it a sort of threa...   Dec 20 2006, 01:20 AM
mystick   No, no threat. It is more like saying think before...   Dec 20 2006, 01:34 AM
Faustopheles   LOL apologies for the misspelling, Mystick. You...   Dec 20 2006, 01:41 AM
distillate   holy shit (no pun intended) that has to be the ...   Dec 20 2006, 01:48 AM
mystick   holy shit (no pun intended) that has to be the fun...   Dec 20 2006, 01:55 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   Faust, i understand well enough that we cannot des...   Dec 20 2006, 01:50 AM
Faustopheles   Greetings A Smoking Fox, I fear that you may be e...   Dec 20 2006, 04:44 AM
Hagetaka Kuro   Dear Faustopheles, I am very eager to understand ...   Dec 20 2006, 07:03 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   Greetings A Smoking Fox, I fear that you may be e...   Dec 20 2006, 08:42 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   Dudes well as i am a fulltime Nec practitioner, so...   Dec 20 2006, 08:49 AM
Faustopheles   Greetings A Smoking Fox, Once again I turn you to...   Dec 20 2006, 01:41 PM
Faustopheles   Greetings Hagetaka Kuro, I shall do my best to ar...   Dec 20 2006, 03:10 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Some quotes i gathered togheter from your all pr...   Dec 20 2006, 05:13 PM
Faustopheles   Greetings A Smoking Fox, Good post. Now I know fr...   Dec 20 2006, 08:29 PM
mystick   Don't get me wrong, you indeed have a strong a...   Dec 21 2006, 07:10 AM
Edunpanna   Greetings fellas, I am not trying to be a dork ho...   Dec 21 2006, 11:02 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   true, we can agree to disagree. This just does n...   Dec 21 2006, 05:10 AM
Faustopheles   Greetings A Smoking Fox, Your notion that time d...   Dec 21 2006, 04:09 PM
Enochian   Ok down to just the answer to the question. We and...   Dec 21 2006, 05:55 PM
Eabatu   I will end this debate once and (BY THE GRACE OF E...   Dec 21 2006, 07:52 PM
Edunpanna   Greetings everyone, I must be nuts. I think the ...   Dec 21 2006, 08:02 PM
Faustopheles   Greetings Edunpanna, I agree with you 100%. I bel...   Dec 21 2006, 08:22 PM
mystick   Greetings Edunpanna, I agree with you 100%. I bel...   Dec 21 2006, 11:40 PM
Ashnook   The Necronomicon, and it's Gods, left this top...   Dec 21 2006, 09:01 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   faust, time being relative does not equal time bei...   Dec 22 2006, 08:34 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   Fantastic Discussion! I can't believe I wa...   Dec 27 2006, 11:17 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Fantastic Discussion! I can't believe I wa...   Dec 28 2006, 12:55 PM
distillate   MY STICK! :D   Jan 8 2007, 12:44 AM

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