QUOTE(A_Smoking_Fox @ Dec 19 2006, 02:57 PM)
why would we destroy earth?
For what reason would we speed up the destruction of the current eco system.
For greed, for personal pleasure, for comfort and egotistical ease?
Certainly you are not advocating its demise on the premises of spiritual growth?
While it may be true that earth will recover eventually, that is like me beating the hell out of you saying the doctor will fix you up in a year or 20 after you come out of your coma...
And then me claiming, you don't mind being beat up, becouse what is 1 or 10 years of coma to you, you will recover anyway, and you will die at the end anyway too...
Then i could also state to the police, that if they would ask you about the beating, you would be really calm about it, since you know you will recover, and you have had a coma in the past too, so it doesn't matter at all.
Yet, i have nothing to gain by doing so, thats why i don't go around beating people up, it brings me nothing i need.
That is the same reason why i desire green energy, to live in symbiosm with the earth. Because it is possible, and becouse i have nothing to gain by earths destruction.
I take joy in walking in forests and fields, so i wish to keep them around.
Turn it like you wish, but nuking the hell out of earth, or speeding up its destruction will bring you nothing, it will not heighten your spirit at all.
On the contrary, such selfish destruction only strengthens your own ego and lessens your spirit, at least thats what i believe selfish behaviour does.
Greetings Smoking Fox,
Re- read my posts and you will see that I am merely arguing that it is impossible and egotistical for us to believe that we can destroy the earth.THe current ecosystem yes, but that is not the earth. As humans we want to hang on to that which is dear to us (our forests, etc.), but in the grand scheme of things the earth is not the one that will pay the price of our behaviors, we will.
I state as a hypothetical that perhaps we are here to annihilate ourselves and the current biological status quo in order to bring on a new cycle of creation. It is the Tabula Rasa paradigm. Such a pattern is evident in our human history (as pointed out by Enochian) and our planet's history (as pointed out by myself, Edunpanna, and Seraphin). Our existence, everything we have come to love about "nature" is only a tiny wrinkle in the existence of our planet.
As for the spirit-all I'm advocating is the destruction of the Ego. When you realize that "I am" from a non-dual perspective, meaning I am all (emanation/creation ), or I am nothing (contraction/destruction), then our petty worries about a-bombs and the current ecosystem become irreverent. My alchemical references in the previous posts are a metaphor to describe the processes through which the Planet evolves, not our own Great Work- for when our own Work is complete, we experience the gnosis that the spirit of the Earth is also us , for we are everything and nothing at once.
In sum, there is no point in speeding up the process of destruction intentionally. The destruction will come-either from the microcosm (our A-bombs) or from the macrocosm (another meteorite). It is this destruction that will pave the way for a new form of existence... From the ashes of a destroyed ecosystem, new and wonderful things emerge that paint life on this planet in a new light. It is the limitations of physical human life that make this concept difficult to grasp. A human lifetime is nothing. Think in thousands and hundred of thousands of years and you will come to see the beauty of this process in which we find ourselves. For this reason I embrace the destruction. After all, as the Ouroboros reminds us, alpha is omega and destruction is creation.
This post has been edited by Faustopheles: Dec 19 2006, 07:40 PM