Is The Earth Sad? Options

Dudes well as i am a fulltime Nec practitioner, so i post that in this section coz there might be smthing related to the Nec:



I have been waking earlier these days due to exams. when go out before sun rise, still in the dark, then the breeze is still cool, when you still get to feel the spiritual world energy, there is a sensing from the planet that i get. its a sort of saddness...



About 10 years back i was waking about 4am for revision also, and previously i felt lazy and dormant and a bit null concerning emotions, but now as i into the magical for a bit more that 1 yr, i can sense emotions....



This reminds me of Final fantasy where the dudes could hear the earths cries.

One thing i would like to metion is that since i got my Bandar, i no longer have nightmares as such. But once when a real powerful evil stuff got into our dimension, i sensed that through a nightmare. No Worries the evil is gone.

But since sometime i have been also getting dreams of Alien ships getting into earth and trying to kick our butts in ways thats horrible. Once i was even like tracked by sorts of helicopters but fortunately another army of helicopters came to flee that one.

Well these need interpretations, Seraphim told me that the helicopter might be a demon monitoring me and my Bandar and the spirits protecting me came to piss it off....



But coming back to the earth, i really wish the feelings i got are only my imagination. what i feel is that the earth showing it being destroyed. a sort of weeping as in the final fantasy movie. :-(



Anyone want to say something on this feeling.?



mystick

Greetings Hagetaka Kuro,

I shall do my best to articulate my point of view.

You seem to have a very evolutionist view of the universe. Hence, Humans are probably not the ultimate end of the universe, but are just a link in an ever evolving chain of life forms, is that right? I've probably got you wrong already, but if that is what you think, then may I ask you if you think a human's life has anymore spiritual value than an Amoeba's?

Yes, I take an evolutionary approach; and yes, I think humans are merely a phase in this grand path of evolution. Indeed, a human’s life is no-more spiritual than any other living thing. I see all spirit as an aspect of the same One. We all have a role to play.

You might say that I take a very emenationist/illuminationist point of view (along the lines of esoteric Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and North Indian Tantra). For me there exists a Universal Mystical Spirituality which underlies each and every religious faith on this planet. To grasp this you must look at religious traditions from a base geometrical theory; get rid of all the mythology, words, etc to arrive at its purest concept, shapes, and vibrations. These are the constants that permeate most (if not all) religious traditions and indeed are representative of the very structure of our universe. Whether we are a product of the Big Bang or if a Creator God created us, each and every living and non-living thing in the Universe, has the same point of origin. Thus, the subtle matter (i.e. the spirit) within us is simply a fragmented portion of the same One.

I see everything occurring in cycles of creation-destruction. We as humans are only a tiny insignificant fragment of this cosmic see-saw. Our human selves are a part of this
cycle and will not carry over to the next phase; our spiritual selves are forever expanding and the next evolutionary phase will grant it new possibilities that are today hindered by our flesh and bone.

For what it's worth, Hayao Miyazaki, creator of 'Nausicaa' and 'Princess Mononoke', believes that it's the height of human arrogance to believe that we are the most highly evolved of species. That we are the purpose for which the earth was created.

I fully agree with Hayao Miyazaki. In a universe of billions of suns, and uncountable numbers of planets; it is arrogant to believe that we are the reason for it all.

Some say, 'With great power comes great responsibility', would you agree with this statement as far as it implies humanity's responsibility to shepherd the earth?

I would say that that we do not have any power. Power is an illusion made to govern the hairless monkey; it is the myth that gave way to hierarchical society.

I think that the view that we have the “power” to change the course of evolution is arrogant. The only true Power comes from the Godhead; on occasion, this power is channeled through us in order that we may realize Its Will. There is also no individual Free-will, this is another myth put forth by the rationalism of the western mind.

Masamune Shirow once had one of his characters say something to the effect of 'The very fact that the word 'Unnatural' exists shows how screwy humans are.'. I've probably horribly misquoted it, but the gist of the passage was, 'nothing is unnatural, for we all stem from nature'. This is your point, isn't it? If humanity nukes the earth to a rock with only bacteria left, this too is part of the natural order of things.

Exactly! I don’t advocate an end-of-days nuclear war, but if it were to occur my soul would be content knowing that it was part of the natural order of things. And as our planets history has shown over and over again, there will one day be a cataclysmic event which will pave the ground for a new phase of evolution.

Anyway, I enjoy your stimulating arguements, even though I don't exactly agree with them. You show a consistency and logic that is quite impressive.

Hagetaka Kuro

Thank You Hagetaka, I look forward to our future discussions.

As far as the 'Necronomicon' goes, doesn't it follow Sumerian beliefs? Isn't the earth the remains of Tiamat, mother of Chaos? The earth may be sad, but it may be inevitable, given our tainted existence that we perish in a Ragnarok/Armageddon style cataclysm. Guess it depends on your religion huh?

I'm really ignorant, but I loved HP Lovecraft before I even saw Simon's Necronomicon. Part of me wants to see Simon's writings interpreted from an HPL perspective, instead of seeing the whole deal getting more and more Derleth-ish, heh heh.

Good points, perhaps you should direct this to some of the Nec. practitioners. Wow, has this topic strayed from the Necronomicon!

Regards,

F