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Tiamat... Dagon?

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DarK	Dec 20 2006, 02:44 AM Post #1
Zelator Posts: 469 Age: N/A Gender: Female Reputation: 11 pts	I know this question may be some off, but is the Mesopatamian Goddess "Tiamat" the same as "Dagon" from the Necronomicon? It is said that Tiamat was slain by Marduk, as I was doing research on Mesopatamian Mythology. From my understanding, Dagon was known as a female as well, if not, androgynous, but not fully a male Old one. Is Tiamat really the same as Dagon?

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distillate	Dec 21 2006, 04:29 PM Post #2
My bag of tricks will always make you happy :) Posts: 206 Age: N/A Gender: Male Reputation: 4 pts	Tiamat is described as a monster, and is considered the embodiment of chaos. Marduk, on the other hand, is destined to become the creator of the world, of order, and is charged with the task of vanquishing Tiamat. After driving the Evil Wind” into her body, he released the arrow, it tore her belly, cut through her insides, splitting the heart. Having thus subdued her, he extinguished her life /and/ cast down her carcass to stand upon it. Then the lord paused to view her dead body, that he might divide the monster and do artful works. He split her like a shellfish into two parts.Marduk then proceeded to create the world from pieces of her body. I always seen marduk as the archetype in our collective unconsious that creates order from chaos. -------------------- "We have wandered into a state of prolonged neurosis because of the absence of a direct pipeline to the unconscious and we have then fallen victim to priestcraft of every conceivable sort. "

DarK	Dec 21 2006, 04:40 PM Post #3
Zelator Posts: 469 Age: N/A Gender: Female Reputation: 11 pts	QUOTE(distillate @ Dec 21 2006, 02:29 PM) Tiamat is described as a monster, and is considered the embodiment of chaos. Marduk, on the other hand, is destined to become the creator of the world, of order, and is charged with the task of vanquishing Tiamat. After driving the Evil Wind” into her body, he released the arrow, it tore her belly, cut through her insides, splitting the heart. Having thus subdued her, he extinguished her life /and/ cast down her carcass to stand upon it. Then the lord paused to view her dead body, that he might divide the monster and do artful works. He split her like a shellfish into two parts.Marduk then proceeded to create the world from pieces of her body. I always seen marduk as the archetype in our collective unconsious that creates order from chaos. Evil has always been associated with chaos, whilst good has been associated with order. Those "gods" who were associated with Chaos were usually not looked upon as "the Gods" but as other kinds of monsters. A good example of this is how Loki, Hel, and the other chaos "giants" of Ancient Norse Mythology are looked upon, as opposed to the Gods of Thor (Marduk) who slayed Loki, and Odin (Enlil) who is the father of all Gods. I may have misinterpreted some of the names, but we are at accord with the meaning of chaos and order. This post has been edited by DeathStalker: Dec 21 2006, 05:41 PM

distillate	Dec 21 2006, 04:47 PM Post #4
My bag of tricks will always make you happy :) Posts: 206 Age: N/A Gender: Male Reputation: 4 pts	QUOTE(DeathStalker @ Dec 21 2006, 05:40 PM) Evil has always been associated with chaos, whilst good has been associate with order. Those "gods" who were associated with Chaos were usually not looked upon as "the Gods" but as other kinds of monsters. A good example of this is how Loki, Hel, and the other chaos "giants" of Ancient Norse Mythology are looked upon, as opposed to the Gods of Thor (Marduk) who slayed Loki, and Odin (Enlil) who is the father of all Gods. I may have misinterpreted some of the names, but we are at accord with the meaning of chaos and order. When talkiing about the ancient gods and the elders simon says on pg 163 (of gates) QUOTE But which are the Monsters and which are the Gods? This post has been edited by distillate: Dec 21 2006, 04:48 PM -------------------- "We have wandered into a state of prolonged neurosis because of the absence of a direct pipeline to the unconscious and we have then fallen victim to priestcraft of every conceivable sort. "

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