A Seemingly Odd Question, Ritual Tools Including Semen Options

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/oops.gif) Greetings

This is rather an odd question (for me to ask anyway). Bit off the beaten track for my threads anyway. But here goes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/baby.gif) What belief systems, magical methods involve the digestion of male semen? What are the desired effects? What are the psychological effects on a male priest who digests his own semen or another's semen? What are the viewpoints towards this priests sexuality?

I know male semen is an extremely powerful magical tool. A very powerful magical talisman. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/face08.gif)

I'm not about to embark on such a knife edge path. I just need to understand the magic system and tradition behind such a ritual.

Nice topic . . interestingly I'm in a current corrospondance conversation with Stephen Mace (Stealing Fire from Heaven) about this subject.
Its Mr Mace's contention (granted, not a particularly Ceremonial view) that the retention or reabsorbtion of semen (or famale vaginal secretions) were specifically part of
Crowley's (a particularly Ceremonial view) concept of "Chastity". As well, clearly part of A.O. Spare's set of tools for his magickal work (bowl-talisman consecration)
Seems that Crowley's "magickal child" (as well as a Tantric concept too, I think), weighed heavily on the end use or purpose (or lack of) of the ejaculate.
As if the energy (and esoteric value) of the semen, combined with whatever thought/thoughtforms in the ejaculator (or group participants) are enough to create effect (if not some form of spiritual entity).

Mr. Mace recommends several things in regards to the ejaculant and ejaculator.
The person should practice something akin to A.C.'s Chastity . . that is, don't cum and just waste it in a tissue, for simple pleasure or killing time. Only ejaculate (of any female equivilent) when you intent to use if for
"magickal" purposes. This particularly applies to solitary practice ,as the act of coetal sex gives the seminal energy an appropriate "home" to lodge and diffuse its energy into. Though I'm not sure if there aren't also considerations for any group work that include semen.

His basic premise on use, is that after any ejaculation (magickal or recreational) the semen should be, nearly immediately, placed in the mouth and the energy should be absorbed. Then the remaining fluid should be swallowed as a type of eucharist. (or as previously said, deposited initially in the vagina). The only other use/application for semen that he suggests is a an immediately applied talismanic charge. Either way, it either gets reabsorbed or intentionally applied to a magickal operation. (he give an account of Spare using semen stored in a earthen container to "grow" a "magickal child" too)

I've been playing with the idea of absorbing the semens energy throught my hands (adapting R. Bruces tactile process to create/open minor chakric openings in my palms). Although the process of stimulating/opening the tactile sensation of the palms (in an intentionally magickal chakric concept) is anithetical-feeling to the "production" of ejaculant . . . there is a distinct feeling that come with the intentional reabsorbtion of the semenal energy.
I'm sure the mouth is even more effective . . . but thats a degree of partices I haven't achieved, yet.

Another approach I had worked with (a few years ago) was to take an intent and mentally move through my chakras to the sacral center (after initially raising to the brow chakra), and inform / program that chakra / testes / genitals of the intention. Then produce the already "charged" or programmed semen for magickal use.


Aside from our nearly victorian, overly rational, ashamed of our own bodies/sexuality backgrounds and culture . . . sex and its affiliated products are a poorly under-used and maligned (internally and culturally) part of who we are.

This post has been edited by palindroem: Dec 24 2006, 12:05 PM