Punishment Options

I have a theoretical question about punishing a disobediant spirit. Now in the goetia it has formula about punishing a being that does not appear, but what about punishing a being that doesn't do what you comand it to repeatidly? Would one need to do this ritual by poutting on its sigil and singing its sigl over flames? Etc? What would you do?

I have a theoretical question about punishing a disobediant spirit. Now in the goetia it has formula about punishing a being that does not appear, but what about punishing a being that doesn't do what you comand it to repeatidly? Would one need to do this ritual by poutting on its sigil and singing its sigl over flames? Etc? What would you do?

The conjurations are fairly clear about the responsibilities of the spirit. You command it to "appear here... make rational answers... manifesting what I desire" etc.. The spirit is bound to each command and must fulfill it according to the oration, otherwise it is in jeopardy of punishment.

This is one of the reasons I stress using the correct form of ceremony and equipment: if you omit something, the spirit can ignore you outright or answer in a way more pleasing to it than to you. If you don't have the fire, the chain, the sulphur, the box etc... you can expect the spirit will not take your threats seriously since you could not possibly fulfill them within the context of the ceremony.

The spirits are bound to answer clearly and work in a way that suits your intentions. You need to describe what you want, but you don't need to give GPS coordinates. Also take some time, if appropriate, to engage the spirit in conversation when it comes to new or difficult subjects, instead of simply demanding answers then sending it away.

If you do not use the original form of the ceremony, having devised some means of securing the service of the spirit on your own, it would be wise to make certain that the spirit is bound by all the terms, not just the command to appear. All the Goetia spirits are answerable to the cardinal wardens, and you might begin there when looking for ways to arrange your own punitive contract.