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DarK |
Dec 25 2006, 10:32 PM
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I was reading somewhere in a book of eastern traditions I have, and I came upon a meditation which is meant to enable access to other worlds. The are two possible problems with this: 1. I have no idea how to go about doing this exercise as it is new to me. 2. I am not sure if the author has inscripted everything in detail. I typed the meditation and found a picture of a spiral which I will add below. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (IMG:http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8330/2spiralsxd1.gif) Visiting other worlds:This procedure comes from an old Celtic tradition for getting to the otherworld. Exercise:Sit in a comfortable position and place a piece of paper in front of you with the picture of the double spiral on it. Devote your full attention to it for a few minutes, and then close your eyes and focus inwardly on the starting point in the center of the right-rotating spiral. Now, consciously transport yourself to this point and begin following the spiral to the right, step-by-step. After making some turns, you will reach a point at which the energy changes. On the energetic level, this point is customarily protected by two guards who will not let every traveler pass. If entrance is denied, you must turn back immediately. If passage is granted, follow the left-rotating spiral into the center. The area surrounding the center point is at first clad in thick swathes of fog that only lighten after you reach the center point. There, a completely different world opens up. The term “otherworld” does not denote a specific place, but is rather a collective term for all reachable parallel dimensions that exist in our world in different times nad vibration levels. If you meet other beings in this place, approach them with respect. If orders or prohibitions are issued, follow them without exception. In order to end the visit to the otherworld, return via the same route that took you there. Again start in the center of the left-rotating spiral and follow its windings out clockwise. At the turning point between the two spirals, turn left to enter the counter-clockwise spiral. When you reach the center and your consciousness is again in the here and now, you can conclude the meditation. Open your eyes and stretch in order to feel your body again. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Has anyone had an experience with such a travel? Or does anyone understand the magick/method behind the double-spiral which enables travel? The description was just a bit vague for my taste. This post has been edited by DeathStalker: Dec 25 2006, 10:36 PM
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DarK |
Dec 28 2006, 09:50 PM
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Read this... Allah, Islamic Science and the Nature of the AcausalWhile Islamic Science is based upon the affirmation that there are realms beyond the causal, spatial one known to and observed via our physical senses, and while these realms have been described [ see Islamic Science ] in terms of the acausal, and the union of causal and acausal, it is important to understand that Allah, the Supreme Being, is beyond not only the causal and acausal, but also the unity of acausal and causal. That is, Allah is not this unity of causal and acausal. While an understanding and apprehension of the acausal is important for Islamic Science - and a way to Allah - Allah is not manifest in this acausal, and its beings, as He is not manifest in the causal and its beings, such as ourselves. Allah is beyond every-thing and every being, whether the thing is causal, acausal, or both causal and acausal, and whether the being is causal, acausal or both causal and acausal. There is no-thing, and no-being which can be likened to Allah. Allah cannot be conceptualized by us: not in causal terms; not in acausal terms; and not in terms of any combination or union of causal and acausal. Allah is separate from all of His creation - from the realm of the causal, from the realms of the acausal, and from those realms where there is a joining of, or a manifestation of, both causal and acausal. Islamic Science is a way up, from the causal world of our mortal lives, and its limited causal, spatial, perspective, toward the acausal; toward those other realms of existence which we cannot directly experience through our physical senses, and which are a-causal and which cannot be defined in terms of causal Space. Islamic Science is essentially a quest to know and understand, through reasoning and the experimental methods of science, the realms of both causal and acausal. The beings and "the things" of both of these realms are Signs; a means whereby we can come to appreciate and know Allah through His creations. This acceptance of, and quest to apprehend and understand, both causal and acausal is the distinguishing feature of Islamic Science, for modern Science (the science of the modern Western world) is purely causal and reductionist, seeking as it does to apprehend and understand all existence in terms of spatial-temporal cause and effect, and so reducing existence, and all beings and all things, to mechanistic reactions between such notions as "matter", "force" and "energy". In contrast to modern causal science, Islamic Science seeks to apprehend the essential relatedness of all existence. That is, it seeks to place all things, all beings - all that exists - in relation to Allah, understanding as Islamic Science does that all existence is ultimately a Unity and created from, and dependent upon, a Higher Being who is separate from, and not influenced in any way by, such created existence and Who, moreover, is still creating being and beings from non-being: Who thus still determines, and will always determine, existence itself. Modern science accepts as a fundamental principle that the natural world - the very cosmos itself - works by itself without any "outside"/higher or creative intervention. That is, that it follows natural, unchanging, physical laws. Life itself is thus the product of certain chance physical happenings over certain long periods of time, just as our own consciousness, our own powers of reason, resulted from a long process of change caused by gradual adaptation to our physical environment. Initially, some modern scientists accepted that there may well have been some "Creator" for the cosmos - who only created the initial "matter", or "energy", with this "matter" or "energy" then unfolding in a natural way to produce the cosmos as it is today, without there being any further intervention by this "Creator". However, this notion of some initial "Creator" is rejected by many, if not most, modern scientists today, even though some modern scientists and philosophers now claim that this initial "Creator" is the very cosmos, and that the evolution of the cosmos, is the evolution, the life, of this "Creator". According to Islamic Science, the acausal while currently unknown to physical science, is not unknowable - it can be studied, known and understood not only through reason but also directly through observation and experiment. For this to be done, the observation and experiments must be based upon acausal methods. That is, the acausal cannot be studied using causal means - through physical experiments based upon causal time and the concept of causal Space, and through the type of reductionist cause-and-effect reasoning inherent in modern causal science. Acausal reasoning involves concepts such as that of acausal "force" where the change of some acausal "matter" occurs not due to an external "force" but because the change is already inherent in that acausal "matter". [ For further details see the Appendix of The Basis of Islamic Science ] It is the development of such concepts, and the acausal reasoning necessary to understand them, and then the performance of physical experiments based upon the conclusions of such reasoning, that will enable us for the first time to apprehend and understand the nature of the acausal itself. http://website.lineone.net/~aaziz/natureacausal.html
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Dec 29 2006, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(DeathStalker @ Dec 29 2006, 03:50 AM) Initially, some modern scientists accepted that there may well have been some "Creator" for the cosmos - who only created the initial "matter", or "energy", with this "matter" or "energy" then unfolding in a natural way to produce the cosmos as it is today, without there being any further intervention by this "Creator". However, this notion of some initial "Creator" is rejected by many, if not most, modern scientists today, even though some modern scientists and philosophers now claim that this initial "Creator" is the very cosmos, and that the evolution of the cosmos, is the evolution, the life, of this "Creator". Greetings Death Stalker, In the Philospohy of Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, Hegel gives a very similar concept of the Nature of the Absolute being comprises by distinguishibale phases within itself, that the whole is constituent of the parts, yet also greater in some degree then the sum of its parts. As the above quoted section of your message indicates, that the Creator is constituently the sum and process of the Cosmos, and that the Evolution of the Cosmos, is the Evolution, the Life, of this Creator. Here is some pertinent information from the Philosophy of Hegel: "To say, therefore, that the Absolute is self-thinking Thought is to affirm the identity of the ideal and the real, of subjectivity and objectivity. But this is an identity-in-difference, not a blank undifferentiated identity. Spirit sees itself in Nature: It sees Nature as the objective manifestation of the Absolute, a manifestation which is a necessary condition for its own existence. In other words, the Absolute knows itself as the Totality, as the whole process of its becoming; but at the same time it sees distinctions between the phases of its own life. It knows itself as an idenity-in-difference , as the unity which comprises distinguishable phases within itself." Take for instance the "Becoming" and Self-Reflection of a individual person. We see for instance that we rely on the Inner Self-Thought of our own condition, our own wholeness, and our own being, yet at the same time, we are able to Self-Determine our Subjective Existence in terms of distinguishing certain phases of our Life, of Learning, Of Reflection, of Thought, of Experience. We can see the whole "I" in "I Am Becoming" because we can distinguish particular aspects of our Life. Then if you take this Subjective process to an Objective sense, we can distinguish that we are part of our environment, we distinguish that we are both separate, or, have our individual persons, yet at the same time we are interdependent on the environment and conditions to support our biological forms. We breathe the air from the environment, this sustains the oxygen within our bodies, we take in the food from the environment, we drink of the water, and make shelter of the items found in Nature. All of this Interaction and Interdependence lets us know that, although we have an "I" in our Self Awareness, we also must admit that our very existence depends on the Interrelationships with the environment and other forces around us. We are a Unity of the many aspects of Existence and we are able through this process of evolution, or becoming, able to ascertain that all these Particular factors makeup up "Who We Are" and that each preceeding, present and future experience or Interaction with other aspects or (opposited) Objective aspects of Creation are part and parcel of the Totality of Our Being. I hope I didn't get too carried away with the Philosophical content of this message, I was on a roll. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif) Respectfully, Helel (Joseph) This post has been edited by Joseph: Dec 29 2006, 11:27 AM
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DarK |
Dec 29 2006, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(Joseph @ Dec 29 2006, 08:31 AM) Greetings Death Stalker, In the Philospohy of Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, Hegel gives a very similar concept of the Nature of the Absolute being comprises by distinguishibale phases within itself, that the whole is constituent of the parts, yet also greater in some degree then the sum of its parts. As the above quoted section of your message indicates, that the Creator is constituently the sum and process of the Cosmos, and that the Evolution of the Cosmos, is the Evolution, the Life, of this Creator. Here is some pertinent information from the Philosophy of Hegel: "To say, therefore, that the Absolute is self-thinking Thought is to affirm the identity of the ideal and the real, of subjectivity and objectivity. But this is an identity-in-difference, not a blank undifferentiated identity. Spirit sees itself in Nature: It sees Nature as the objective manifestation of the Absolute, a manifestation which is a necessary condition for its own existence. In other words, the Absolute knows itself as the Totality, as the whole process of its becoming; but at the same time it sees distinctions between the phases of its own life. It knows itself as an idenity-in-difference , as the unity which comprises distinguishable phases within itself." Take for instance the "Becoming" and Self-Reflection of a individual person. We see for instance that we rely on the Inner Self-Thought of our own condition, our own wholeness, and our own being, yet at the same time, we are able to Self-Determine our Subjective Existence in terms of distinguishing certain phases of our Life, of Learning, Of Reflection, of Thought, of Experience. We can see the whole "I" in "I Am Becoming" because we can distinguish particular aspects of our Life. Then if you take this Subjective process to an Objective sense, we can distinguish that we are part of our environment, we distinguish that we are both separate, or, have our individual persons, yet at the same time we are interdependent on the environment and conditions to support our biological forms. We breathe the air from the environment, this sustains the oxygen within our bodies, we take in the food from the environment, we drink of the water, and make shelter of the items found in Nature. All of this Interaction and Interdependence lets us know that, although we have an "I" in our Self Awareness, we also must admit that our very existence depends on the Interrelationships with the environment and other forces around us. We are a Unity of the many aspects of Existence and we are able through this process of evolution, or becoming, able to ascertain that all these Particular factors makeup up "Who We Are" and that each preceeding, present and future experience or Interaction with other aspects or (opposited) Objective aspects of Creation are part and parcel of the Totality of Our Being. I hope I didn't get too carried away with the Philosophical content of this message, I was on a roll. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif) Respectfully, Helel (Joseph) I actually have a very similar personal philosophy. And yes I've read Hegel's works, he's an incredible philosopher, I seemed to have taken most of his theories. I believe the cosmos may be seperated with the dark/light, or yin-yang factor; this, being the Causal and Acausal; and I believe each universe as a whole, as a living "being" of matter, thus a "God" if you want to call it. Perhaps the God (Acausal) created some life, and the God (Causal) created some life... and here we are (?). I still need more material to build on this but I'm getting ideas as we move on. I've always thought it was logical to think of the cosmos, or universe, as a being. Perhaps the Acausal (God) and the Causal (God) are part of THE Creator, just as blood cells are to us we are to earth, such as we are to earth, earth is to the universe, such as earth is to the universe, the universe is to etc... "As above, So below"
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