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Mirima Coile
post Jan 1 2007, 10:12 PM
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Hello everyone!

I'm Jenny, and I'm transsexual. In other words, I'm a girl stuck in a guy's body. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/weeping.gif) I've been looking on the net for about a year and a half for some way to fix the issue of me being transsexual i.e., ....turn myself into a girl. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wish.gif)

So, my uestion is, has anybody here ever heard of someone changing into a member of the opposite sex because of/with magic? Has anyone heard of any methods? Anyone have any ideas where I could look? *besides Occultforums.com, there was a HUGE thread on the subject there before some hacker destroyed everything..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tickedoff.gif) * Any ideas, please let me know.

Oh, and yes, I already know about estrogen, but at my age I would have to go thru my mom to get it, and besides her not being keen on the idea at all, I don't know if I could get it prescribed...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

So, anyway, any input on the subject would be greatly appreciated! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Thanks a bunch,
Jenny (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

P.S. Sorry if it sounds like I'm spell begging.....


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QUOTE(Mirima Coile)
Hello, Acid09!
Thank you for stating that you're not trying to pick on me, and also for asking me questions instead of asking if I was sure, and if I didn't think maybe it was actually this, or that, sorta like what the poster before you did.....I know he didn't mean to be hurtful, but he sorta annoyed me....anyhoo. Answers to your questions.

For as long as I can remember, I've known that there was something wrong with me. In elementary school, I had more friends who were girls then that were guys. I don't know if that means anything, though, I don't remember me being really femenine back then (I never have been, not now even, cuz I'm still in the closet)....

Ever since I started school, since I was about 7, I've always been interested in the occult. By about 3rd grade I'd read all the superstition books and such in the library. And there was one bok in particular that really caught my attention, I remember. It was a book of superstitions, and one of them was, that if you kissed your elbow, you'd change sex.

When I got the first three Harry Potter books (I must've been about 8 or 9), I remember reading the second one, Chamber of Secrets. And the concept of Polyjuice potion really interested me. I thought, I want some of that. I remember daydreaming that if I was Harry, I'd get one of Hermione's hairs and make some of that potion......

Since about age 7 or 8, I've wanted to be a girl. It always bothered me that I couldn't be, but it wasn't really a major part of my life. I never told anyone, cuz I didn't figure it mattered, I thought, why should I tell anyone about that, they'd put me in the loony bin.
It didn't really bother me that much, I just kept living. I didn't really act femenine.

I remember that thru much of elementary school, I was always sad. Of course, I wasn't really that well liked in elementary school, i mean, i was teased, but I had friends. Even when things were great, I would sometimes just start crying and I wouldn't know why. It took me a while to figure out what it was that was wrong with me, to connect the fact that I wanted to be a girl to the fact that I was sad most of the time.

Around 12 or 13 the want to be a girl became more urgent and defined. I remember that it was what I wished for when I blew out the candles on my cake the day of my 13th birthday.

Soon after I read that one book, I realised that I couldn't kiss my elbow. Der-der. So I went on to researching different methods of making a wish. I must've tried them all. None worked, obviously. So I gave up. The idea of using magic towards my particular ends didn't pop up again until I was 13. But I didn't start trying to find something on the web until about a year and a half later.
And now I forgot what I was talking about (stupid sleep deprivation).

Any hoo, if you have anymore questions, or if I haven't made something clear enough, please feel free to pm me back!

Sincerely,
John [edited to protect personal identity]
a.k.a. Jennifer

I went ahead and posted your PM in this thread so other member's could add their imput as well. If you'd rather keep it private, pm me again and I'll delete this post. I'm also moving this thread to [edit]the coffee shop, I forgot that not having 30 posts means you can't view the member's lounge[/edit] because this sounds more like a personal issue than a noob asking questions about magick.

As far as the subject is conserned:
Why do you think you'd be happier if you were a girl instead of a guy?
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For as long as I can remember, I've known that there was something wrong with me. In elementary school, I had more friends who were girls then that were guys.

Whats wrong is that you think there is something wrong with you. As you are, you are no more or less "wrong" then anybody else.
[edit]what I mean is feeling that you are a female in a male body is not wrong and you should not feel any shame for these beliefs[/edit]

When I was in grade school I had more female friends as well. I didn't act girly or anything either and I never wanted to be a girl because of it. That doesn't mean I never wondered what it would be like to have my own - well female body, thats actually pretty normal, especially at your age to think about.

When you think to yourself that you are a girl in a guy's body are you really thinking "I wish I were a girl", or "I wonder what it would be like"? Basically what I gesturing is the possibility that you are simply in a curious age and are confussing the curiosity to be female with transexuallity.
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Ever since I started school, since I was about 7, I've always been interested in the occult. By about 3rd grade I'd read all the superstition books and such in the library. And there was one bok in particular that really caught my attention, I remember. It was a book of superstitions, and one of them was, that if you kissed your elbow, you'd change sex.

When I got the first three Harry Potter books (I must've been about 8 or 9), I remember reading the second one, Chamber of Secrets. And the concept of Polyjuice potion really interested me. I thought, I want some of that. I remember daydreaming that if I was Harry, I'd get one of Hermione's hairs and make some of that potion......

Magick works on a more subtle level. There is no way to "magically" alter your physical being into the opposite sex. Besides, pop culture is a piss poor source for real indepth occult mysticism. What happens in books or movies is not really what real magicians do. If you're looking for magick as a means to alter your gender you probably won't find it, at least not litterally.
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Since about age 7 or 8, I've wanted to be a girl. It always bothered me that I couldn't be, but it wasn't really a major part of my life. I never told anyone, cuz I didn't figure it mattered, I thought, why should I tell anyone about that, they'd put me in the loony bin.
It didn't really bother me that much, I just kept living. I didn't really act femenine.

I remember that thru much of elementary school, I was always sad. Of course, I wasn't really that well liked in elementary school, i mean, i was teased, but I had friends. Even when things were great, I would sometimes just start crying and I wouldn't know why. It took me a while to figure out what it was that was wrong with me, to connect the fact that I wanted to be a girl to the fact that I was sad most of the time.

Why were you sad? Was it just because of the teasing? Or was there some trumatic period in your early life? What about siblings - did you have any older or younger sisters? The point of me asking these questions is to try and associate some event(s) that occured that were negative with your desire to be female.
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Around 12 or 13 the want to be a girl became more urgent and defined. I remember that it was what I wished for when I blew out the candles on my cake the day of my 13th birthday.

Soon after I read that one book, I realised that I couldn't kiss my elbow. Der-der. So I went on to researching different methods of making a wish. I must've tried them all. None worked, obviously. So I gave up. The idea of using magic towards my particular ends didn't pop up again until I was 13. But I didn't start trying to find something on the web until about a year and a half later.
And now I forgot what I was talking about (stupid sleep deprivation).

Short of hormone thearopy and surgery there is no other way to change genders. And even if you did you would still be legally male, in some states at least.

I think you should spend some time getting to know your masculine side. You're only 16, 2 years shy of being 18. Once you're that age you can make the choice to switch genders. But you're young still and I think before you jump the gun on being female you should first at least try to enjoy being male. My point is if you really become female and later realize you missed out on being male, there's no growing a new penis. You'd be stuck that way for the rest of your life, a possible prision of sorts.

There are also certain biological realities to consider: Even if you got the gender change, surgically, you'd still be missing certain parts and you'd never be able to have kids of your own either. You'd, in a way, just be a mutilated male.

Maybe spiritually you are female. But your biology has made you male. All I'm saying is that rather than spend so much time trying to turn yourself into a female, enjoy what you have now knowing that even if you did change that doesn't mean you'd be any happier. Then, if you still believe being female would make you happier, there will come a time when you will be at an age where you can make the legal choice to switch genders.

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Why do you think you'd be happier if you were a girl instead of a guy?

Because that's who she is.

Whats wrong is that you think there is something wrong with you. As you are, you are no more or less "wrong" then anybody else.

You believe your'e male, she believes she's female, she's more open to her feminine side.

When I was in grade school I had more female friends as well. I didn't act girly or anything either and I never wanted to be a girl because of it. That doesn't mean I never wondered what it would be like to have my own - well female body, thats actually pretty normal, especially at your age to think about.

Transexualism, or a better word: " Transgenderism ", is inherently not a personality.

Why were you sad? Was it just because of the teasing? Or was there some trumatic period in your early life? What about siblings - did you have any older or younger sisters? The point of me asking these questions is to try and associate some event(s) that occured that were negative with your desire to be female.

Get a girl and tell her that she's a guy, attach mustache to her, cut her breasts off, tell her she can't fornicate with any males, belittle her for who she is, and ask her if she'll be happy.

You'd be stuck that way for the rest of your life, a possible prision of sorts.


Edit: Breaking out of jail.

There are also certain biological realities to consider: Even if you got the gender change, surgically, you'd still be missing certain parts and you'd never be able to have kids of your own either. You'd, in a way, just be a mutilated male.

Mutliated... hmm... you hate mutilations? I like 'em, maybe a new fashion?

Maybe spiritually you are female.

We are all spirituality androgynous, we have equally the male and female aspects of our souls.

But your biology has made you male. All I'm saying is that rather than spend so much time trying to turn yourself into a female, enjoy what you have now knowing that even if you did change that doesn't mean you'd be any happier.

Would you enjoy having a female's body and forcibly having to fornicate with males? Judging by your extreme straightfulness.

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polite.heretic   Hello, Anybody Know Anything About This?   Jan 1 2007, 10:12 PM
mystick   Or is it that you have some mental probs? May be y...   Jan 2 2007, 01:48 AM
Acid09   Well I thought we had a thread on gender change an...   Jan 2 2007, 05:59 PM
Isaiah   Um, she can't read this if it's in the mem...   Jan 2 2007, 09:29 PM
mystick   Mystick: Please, man please. Refrain from calling ...   Jan 2 2007, 10:03 PM
DeathStalker   Nah transgenderism is not a natural stuff accordin...   Jan 2 2007, 10:07 PM
mystick   Well i might have seemed harsh, but sometimes for ...   Jan 2 2007, 09:54 PM
Isaiah   Consider this: She's doing this for her own g...   Jan 2 2007, 10:07 PM
mystick   Well your points are not that much convincing dude...   Jan 2 2007, 10:21 PM
Isaiah   Actually, I'm content. All I wanted was for yo...   Jan 2 2007, 10:27 PM
mystick   Actually, I'm content. All I wanted was for yo...   Jan 3 2007, 01:18 AM
DeathStalker   Peace to you too. I wont reply to the thread but j...   Jan 3 2007, 01:52 AM
DeathStalker   Transexualism Transsexualism is thought to start ...   Jan 2 2007, 10:28 PM
Isaiah   No offense meant, but Darkstalker has posted very ...   Jan 3 2007, 01:51 AM
Acid09   This is not a bash against transexuals or trangen...   Jan 3 2007, 04:40 PM
Isaiah   Well, there are several misconceptions which still...   Jan 3 2007, 10:00 PM
mystick   Ok Jenny, I wont call you dude now, the other guys...   Jan 3 2007, 10:52 PM
Mirima Coile   Hello everyone! :wiggle: I fully understan...   Jan 4 2007, 01:20 AM
DeathStalker   NOTE: Please don't quote the entire previous r...   Jan 4 2007, 01:45 AM
Isaiah   You have my support as a very openly bisexual male...   Jan 4 2007, 01:47 AM
Acid09   I'm not a doctor but I'd highly recomend ...   Jan 4 2007, 06:01 PM
DeathStalker   I'm not a doctor but I'd highly recomend t...   Jan 5 2007, 07:35 AM
Mirima Coile   Hello! Quote time, lol :yu: I am depressed...   Jan 4 2007, 09:23 PM
Acid09   Thats hardcore stuff and taken together? Well I a...   Jan 5 2007, 05:59 PM
Wickedone   Ok this is my opinion on the situation. Jenny is ...   Jan 26 2007, 10:59 PM

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