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a113n2
post Jan 6 2007, 05:11 PM
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I'm looking for ways to make the gnosis more easier for the armchair magicians.

No stand-up swirling , spinning ,masturbation...something that can be done while seated.

Meditation seems like a good idea,but gnosis to me seems closer to the dhyana/jhana stages of eastern mystics which apparantly takes years to attain.
(Someone please prove me wrong here!)- so i've lost interest in that too.

Sneezing is good .(As long as we dont get to the stage where pepper does nothing for us)

I liked Sherwin's (?) body spasm technique -by twitching all parts of the body one- by -one(has anybody tried this?)

Are there any other techniques similar to this?

Anybody got an Inhibitory gnosis handbook (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jan 8 2007, 05:42 AM
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umm . . . maybe theres a missing distinction here between gnosis (altered state) and gnostic (heretic quasi early christian contemporary religion).
I think this thread is on the former . . gnosis.


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post Jan 8 2007, 07:10 AM
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QUOTE(palindroem @ Jan 8 2007, 06:42 AM) *
umm . . . maybe theres a missing distinction here between gnosis (altered state) and gnostic (heretic quasi early christian contemporary religion).
I think this thread is on the former . . gnosis.


That's sort of what I was thinking when I came back to this thread.

Gnosis is direct spiritual awareness and/or knowledge (the two being arguably either distinct or synonymous)

No amount of reasoning will bring about a state of Gnosis, or spiritual awareness, regarding any particular subject. Gnosis is categorically beyond the realm of the reasoning mind, which is why the gnostic state of mind (the state of achieving Gnosis, not the state of mind of a Gnostic) relies on various techniques to undermine the logical mind, either through some exhaustive method or through some method of 'stilling' the mind.

Wyrdscience, what you're referring to is correspondence contemplation. There may be another more suitable term for it, but it isn't gnosis, it's abstract reasoning. Nothing about this system you've presented involves an altered state of consciousness, and contemplation will keep you in your reasoning mind rather than get you out of it.

That said, your method combined with some method of consciousness alteration towards the ends of achieving gnosis, is not a bad idea, as such contemplation can prime one's consciousness to achieve a particular 'area' of direct awareness, the true nature of numbers, rhythm, etc.

Also, music is not always divided on a scale of 8, that's a particularly western orientation of music - although music is always factorable by 4...

peace

addition: Was reading some of the threads on the gnostic forum that Enochian offered, as well as the forums at Gnosis-Usa, and found his suggestion to be largely true! But what can you expect from a philosophy that hinges on personal experiential knowledge? We occultists already know that while there are universal axioms upon which the macrocosmic universe operates, they are more refined and individual on the microcosmic level of the Self. Most people will not have the same experience, and will come to difference conclusions about the nature of existence.

That is, until they break free of the illusion of existence all together, but you don't normally hear back from those people. O_O

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a113n2   Gnosis Exercise   Jan 6 2007, 05:11 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Sleep deprivation, fasting, or extended single poi...   Jan 6 2007, 05:38 PM
a113n2   Thanks for the reply Dreamer My post might reflec...   Jan 6 2007, 06:06 PM
a113n2   Hypnosis / NLP ideas anybody?   Jan 6 2007, 06:14 PM
palindroem   Not to be overly simplistic . . . but . . . have y...   Jan 6 2007, 08:46 PM
WyrdScience   Looking into gnosis can be a really hairy thing to...   Jan 7 2007, 05:46 PM
Enochian   The true GNOSTIC seeks to become angelic while sti...   Jan 7 2007, 06:53 PM
Petrus   The true GNOSTIC seeks to become angelic while sti...   Dec 10 2007, 11:39 AM
WyrdScience   Then, I at least thank you for maturely pointing...   Jan 8 2007, 07:51 AM
esoterica   this may be useful or not - i wrote something awhi...   Jan 8 2007, 08:12 AM
Enochian   Hmmm well gnosis itself is rather boreing to talk ...   Jan 8 2007, 01:33 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Esoterica: When one achieves gnosis at first, it i...   Jan 8 2007, 02:26 PM
esoterica   thanks - i suppose i shouldn;t abbriviate vagrant ...   Jan 8 2007, 03:01 PM
Enochian   If i had to categorize it and say one thing has he...   Jan 8 2007, 03:04 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   If i had to categorize it and say one thing has he...   Jan 9 2007, 01:32 AM
esoterica   non-orgasmic consciousness - hmpf - i'll have ...   Jan 9 2007, 05:03 PM

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