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post Dec 6 2006, 02:20 AM
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As you can tell from the topic title, all this stuff interests me and I'd like to be able to perform some of it, but everything about the Golden Dawn, Hermeticism, and Ceremonial Magick in general tends to freak me out. I'm a Roman Catholic and I'm obscenely worried about my spiritual self getting into some trouble by doing this stuff. Are there any 'Judeo-Christian' roots to these rituals? I mean it doesn't take a lot to notice the archangels and God's names in the rituals, but seeing videos of people using sinister voices and generally acting like they want to be Lucifer's best friend during said rituals is a little worrisome.

If anyone has any advice for me I'd really appreciate it. I want to be closer with my HGA and thereby God by doing a little magick everyday, I desperately want Him to work through me, but what if unwittingly I allow myself to be worked by an entity with less than amiable goals? Etc., etc.

Thanks in advance..

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post Jan 15 2007, 02:52 PM
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enochian ... i totally feel you as that is exactly what happened ... the 'renaming' or co-opting of spells and rituals from other names of more ancient traditions ... absolutely, it was done quite well and integrated quite masterfully.

but, bear in mind, that many of the christian prayers are said to various 'names' of god ... although the modern evenagelical christians have forgotten how to use the names of god (and kind of just fall into that "heavenly father" one) and do not use the magic of their faith in their prayer rituals, in the roman catholic tradition in particular, the various names of god are involved for the various prayer rituals/spells that are synonyms of the pagen gods or egyptian gods or the hindi gods, etc., etc. 'hail mary' would be a spell under any other name. if you study st. francis or any other of the more esoteric based saints/monks/founders of catholic traditions, you will find a deep tradition in spells and invoking the various names of god to energize the ritual/spell/prayer. and the bible says that magic, sorcery and prophesy, calling in the spirit, hands-on-healing, levitation and the like are all "wrong" if not used within the context of the "church" where it is more than encouraged (that is obviously an orchestration of scripture in order to maintain power and control over "us" and "them").

call this "1" "one" or "uno" or "un" or "mono" or "fill-in-the-blank" ... its like the tower of babel for religions ... what words do you use to do ______________. fill it in with the one that fits you the best ... after all, all roads are good, and they ultimately lead to the same place ... even if there are different beaches in that place. but your point of their abduction of the rituals from the ancient pagans of europe is dead on, which is why i think so many ex-"christians" find a natural affinity for and comfort in the pagan rituals and traditions.


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JackConnor   Roman Catholic Worried...   Dec 6 2006, 02:20 AM
Radiant Star   I think maybe just go with what you truly, deeply ...   Dec 6 2006, 03:07 AM
JackConnor   I think maybe just go with what you truly, deeply ...   Dec 6 2006, 04:52 PM
Radiant Star   IT's not that I'd have to throw the baby o...   Dec 7 2006, 04:26 AM
The Sorceress   the mass is virtually a magickal ritual, but what ...   Apr 28 2007, 02:34 PM
Enochian   Hmmm maybe i can help. Im no mage but i am a pract...   Dec 6 2006, 06:07 PM
Acid09   I think a certain degree of introspection is in or...   Dec 6 2006, 06:59 PM
JackConnor   Hmmm maybe i can help. Im no mage but i am a pract...   Dec 6 2006, 09:33 PM
gmcbroom   I might be wrong but doesn't santeria and Vood...   Dec 6 2006, 09:12 PM
DeathStalker   Hey man my best suggestion to you would be to stud...   Dec 6 2006, 11:42 PM
Frater Yechidah   Satanists don't use the LBRP, to my knowledge,...   Dec 7 2006, 07:13 AM
Nero   I am catholic as well and I practice ceremonial ma...   Dec 7 2006, 08:33 AM
Pilgrim Child   Both Paul Foster Case and W.E.Butler served as pri...   Dec 7 2006, 01:19 PM
JackConnor   Wow, suffice it to say there's a lot of stuff ...   Dec 7 2006, 03:07 PM
Enochian   This thread has progressed nicely. I like the ide...   Dec 12 2006, 01:45 PM
waldoworld   I see this question over and over again and I gu...   Jan 10 2007, 07:55 PM
Lucian   Ave I dare to disagree with you waldoworld. The k...   Jan 11 2007, 03:53 AM
business voodoo   hi ... most of what everyone practices is ritual b...   Jan 15 2007, 02:04 AM
Bb3   Ave I dare to disagree with you waldoworld. The k...   Jan 15 2007, 09:33 AM
Enochian   Hmmm i agree with most right up until the end here...   Jan 15 2007, 10:46 AM
Enochian   Thanks Business. This topic came up for me prior t...   Jan 15 2007, 03:54 PM
Lucian   Ave Enochian, I will edit this later, but one thi...   Jan 16 2007, 12:30 AM
Enochian   LOL yes i know the two are not the same. The simon...   Jan 16 2007, 10:58 AM
plainsight   God and Lucifer don't exactly play on the same...   Jan 17 2007, 12:29 PM
Enochian   Thats all good. But i think his point is if he can...   Jan 17 2007, 02:12 PM
esoterica   been there, done that - just keep your mouth shut ...   Jan 17 2007, 04:38 PM
Eyes of God   John, I have felt exactly the way that you have. ...   Jan 19 2007, 12:42 AM
BrotherM   believe it or not, I was a Catholic as well. I wen...   Jan 25 2007, 08:35 AM
dynajam   If anyone has any advice for me I'd really app...   Jan 25 2007, 03:20 PM
Sero Sed Serio   Hi I am new to this forum, having just joined tod...   Feb 8 2007, 04:47 PM
Lucian   Ave The famous magickal son of Crowley, Frater Ac...   Feb 8 2007, 06:59 PM
Khenti_Amenti   Ave The famous magickal son of Crowley, Frater Ac...   Apr 28 2007, 10:11 AM
redbreast   Jack, you've been given some great advice and ...   Apr 25 2007, 07:28 PM
extinctionspasm   This existence is vast. There is so much to all of...   May 11 2007, 10:41 AM
tyrian   To want desperately for God to work through you is...   Jun 10 2007, 08:30 PM
Frater526   93! Wuuuuhhhh. That is an argument I often ...   Jun 23 2007, 12:22 PM
Kranos   As you can tell from the topic title, all this stu...   Jun 23 2007, 06:32 PM
JackConnor   I mean wow. I just came back to this site, (there...   Jul 17 2007, 07:27 PM

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