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JackConnor
post Dec 6 2006, 02:20 AM
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As you can tell from the topic title, all this stuff interests me and I'd like to be able to perform some of it, but everything about the Golden Dawn, Hermeticism, and Ceremonial Magick in general tends to freak me out. I'm a Roman Catholic and I'm obscenely worried about my spiritual self getting into some trouble by doing this stuff. Are there any 'Judeo-Christian' roots to these rituals? I mean it doesn't take a lot to notice the archangels and God's names in the rituals, but seeing videos of people using sinister voices and generally acting like they want to be Lucifer's best friend during said rituals is a little worrisome.

If anyone has any advice for me I'd really appreciate it. I want to be closer with my HGA and thereby God by doing a little magick everyday, I desperately want Him to work through me, but what if unwittingly I allow myself to be worked by an entity with less than amiable goals? Etc., etc.

Thanks in advance..

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post Jan 15 2007, 03:54 PM
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Thanks Business. This topic came up for me prior to this when i was discussing Mantras. Useing OM and other mantras. I realize that im not breaking the rules at all. I believe in god and i believe that Jesus did do what it says he did. The thing that makes you open your eyes is the study of other religions. MANY of the world religions believe in dreaming as a way of life. And even parts of the bible are written from a obe or lucid dream. Many of the acts of Jesus himself,Noah,Moses, Ezekiel,Solomon the list of people that are like great magicians in the bible goes on and on. I was made in the likeness of god as we all were. So if this was something frowned upon or taboo why then does god have us find him through looking into ourself? i believe that as most of you said The bible has been changed by RULEING people to make us fit the sheep category im always complaining about.

Magick is no more evil than a loaded gun is. Its all about who wields it....I myself have some very dark tendancies that show through at times but i have learned more about life and the occult by starting to learn of magic and im better for it.

I cannot stress enough anyone considered to be outside the box or a free thinker is bad so dont let religion and politics decide your fate. They after all already ruin us and decide enough for us that we have no choice about. Anytime a lay person has a chance to gain "power" or anything its always supressed. Of course why would these high ranking officials ever want us to be able to see through there lies just by glancing at there aura. Or becoming to powerful and overthrowing them....So instead they take and corrupt the bible to decive us and keep us in fear of our true potentials. I mean come on the KING james bible....thats funny enough as it is. Let someone in power change a book of such great importance...Would we let George w Bush revise the bible? Heck no he cannot even talk riight. lol

The government and religion want it ALL for themselves. The more we learn, the more we astral travel, the more we focus, and summon the more secrets are revealed. And thats bad for certain people..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/i_triangle.gif)

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post Jan 16 2007, 12:30 AM
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Enochian, I will edit this later, but one thing I MUST correct you on is that the Simon mentioned in Acts that speaks of his ways being ungodly is in NO WAY the Simon that published the Necronomicon. That Simon is Peter Lavenda and is quite still alive and well. The Simon in Acts was Simon Magus, a fairly lecherous but none the less inspired Gnostic teacher, in many ways he reflects Crowley, and it was more of his promiscuity and his saying that he was the incarnation of the Epinoina and that his prostitute companion was the Nous (like claiming that you're Jesus and that your call girl is the Virgin Mary) that really gained him the enmity of the early church, hence the myth that puts him up dire straits in a book of the Holy Bible. And, as an aside, Magus was a title, and if anyone calls to this as a sure sign that he was a Sorcerer, remember the holy event of the 3 Magi coming to the Christ-child's bedside.

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JackConnor   Roman Catholic Worried...   Dec 6 2006, 02:20 AM
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waldoworld   I see this question over and over again and I gu...   Jan 10 2007, 07:55 PM
Lucian   Ave I dare to disagree with you waldoworld. The k...   Jan 11 2007, 03:53 AM
business voodoo   hi ... most of what everyone practices is ritual b...   Jan 15 2007, 02:04 AM
Bb3   Ave I dare to disagree with you waldoworld. The k...   Jan 15 2007, 09:33 AM
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business voodoo   enochian ... i totally feel you as that is exactly...   Jan 15 2007, 02:52 PM
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plainsight   God and Lucifer don't exactly play on the same...   Jan 17 2007, 12:29 PM
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BrotherM   believe it or not, I was a Catholic as well. I wen...   Jan 25 2007, 08:35 AM
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