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Hamilton
post Jan 17 2007, 10:05 PM
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Hello,

I'm what I would consider a Christian Mystic, I suppose. I'm one of those take-the-bible-at-it's-word people that you probably laugh about or secretly hate, in that regard. I'm also interested in the more hidden secrets contained therein.

I don't neccessarily limit myself to the Bible, however, unlike most of my comrades. I'll generally consider for truth any Book that Jew's have taken as such from an early time.

For instance, I accept the Book of Enoch (at least book 1, I've not made my mind up about book 2), as it's referenced in the Bible, and was accepted as fact around the time it was written.

In the Book of Enoch, where it talks about Azrael (I believe) teaching Man what I can only term "Christian Magic," and that validates my previous belief that there was likely a Christian magic, hidden in Heaven, though it may be.

I believe that Enochian Magic, as given to Dee was probably the closest we're going to get to the actual word-for-word knowledge of this hidden Christian Magic.

Where can I learn more about Enochian? I've read a bit, and it's awfully technical. I'd like an in-depth overview minus the technical stuff. I guess what I'm looking for is an explanation of the different parts of it, and why some things are thought to work, who the entities are believed to be, what the tables mean, etc Scrying the Aethyrs is an interesting topic I'd like to hear more about, as well.

If anyone could give me such an oveview, or direct me to one, I"d be most appreciative.

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post Jan 22 2007, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(Hamilton @ Jan 18 2007, 04:05 AM) *
I believe that Enochian Magic, as given to Dee was probably the closest we're going to get to the actual word-for-word knowledge of this hidden Christian Magic.

Where can I learn more about Enochian? I've read a bit, and it's awfully technical. I'd like an in-depth overview minus the technical stuff. I guess what I'm looking for is an explanation of the different parts of it, and why some things are thought to work, who the entities are believed to be, what the tables mean, etc Scrying the Aethyrs is an interesting topic I'd like to hear more about, as well.

If anyone could give me such an oveview, or direct me to one, I"d be most appreciative.


I agree with you that this is the language that best approximates the language of the angels who Enoch came to be with, also - I think it approximates the language used pre-Fall.

The words used in enochian magic are mostly extracted from tables of letters and numbers, the enochian language used by the angels at least as shown to kelly/dee seems to be more geometric/mathematical than anything else, just look at the other book of enoch as transmitted to dee/kelly - it looks like a computer-type language as the torah does with its huge grid of letters/numbers.

I think donald tyson's book is a good introduction as redhand and palindroem say, only thing I'd recommend with regards to that is to ignore every time he trys to explain the system from his POV as that sometimes confuses things - the best way to get an explanation after having gone through the system is to actually ask the angels themselves, it's difficult to transmit verbally in some respects.

The easiest symbol to explain is the sigillum dei emeth! If you have experience with the qabalistic tree of life from the egyptian/jewish spiritual sciences then it seems to follow the same form as we see when the sephiroth are concentric circles about the centre malkuth, the angelic names descend from outer edge to the centre in a logical way as the emanations do on the tree - the three concentric seven-sided shapes in the sigillum seem to match-up with the structure of the enochian language itself, which is divided into three blocks of seven.

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