Uses Of Enochian Magic Options

Hey, before I delve too deeply into the topic, what are the uses of Enochian Magick, and what is the purpose of skrying the Aethyrs? What is it like?

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Hey, before I delve too deeply into the topic, what are the uses of Enochian Magick, and what is the purpose of skrying the Aethyrs? What is it like?

This is definitely not my field of expertise, but a brief glance at Geoffrey James' book indicates that Enochian magick users can expect to

1. Find deposits of gems and veins of metal ore (geology)
2. Transport things from one place to another (mechanics)
3. Transform substances (chemistry)
4. Produce medicines (pharmacology)

All of these have hundreds of sub-groupings that fall under these general headings, so one might have conjurations tailored to specific forms of chemistry or emchanics etc..

Additionally there are 91 regional governors who are expected to perform various functions in remote places across the world, but it is somewhat difficult to assign these properly as the map was a little less than complete in Dee's time.

The first series of calls are used to call the Tablet spirits, and the Aethyrs are called to give audeince of the 91 Governors. Common sage is slightly different with the Tablets given standard "elemental" provenance and the Governors more or less neglected in favor of an advancing scheme of astral fantasy as one probes the Aethyrs as if they were lands to explore.

Personally I think it likely that the system would function as Dee claims, but since I've never met a doctor, engineer, chemist, or geologist who cold attribute any reasonable degree of their success to Enochian magick, I can only assume the present claimants are either failing to produce results or that they are simply doing something else entirely while assuming it is the same subject.

As for claims of spiritual progress from Enochian magick, I can only guess that such are made as an excuse for an otherwise fruitless effort. Dee's records appear to indicate that his spirituality was frequently debased by the spirits, who told him to cease worshiping Jesus (his deity), encouraged marital infidelity, and in general seemed to have confused him more than exalted him. if there were anything that mght be considered spiritual in Dee's records, it is his devotional prayers and other work done more or less in spite of what the spirits revealed and offered to perform, which were entirely material works with what would have been observable effects.

As for claims of spiritual progress from Enochian magick, I can only guess that such are made as an excuse for an otherwise fruitless effort. Dee's records appear to indicate that his spirituality was frequently debased by the spirits, who told him to cease worshiping Jesus (his deity), encouraged marital infidelity, and in general seemed to have confused him more than exalted him. if there were anything that mght be considered spiritual in Dee's records, it is his devotional prayers and other work done more or less in spite of what the spirits revealed and offered to perform, which were entirely material works with what would have been observable effects.

Yet consider the contents of Liber 418. From that I would say it is fairly clear that certain aspects of the system do constitute an initiatory process, specifically the work of the aethyrs. Even the Schuellers (who are otherwise despicable) have an interesting section on this in their first book, which given the paucity of work on the subject isn't bad provided that you ignore everything they have to say about magick in general (No, I am not summoning an Enochian spirit to improve my appreciation of classical music!!).

I also find it questionable as to whether being instructed to change his religious practice could be taken as evidence that the work was of no spiritual benefit to Dee. That seems to assume that the C16th mode of pious christianity that he espoused is right on the button, which is not true for many. How many of us have been bashed by one spirit or another and essentially told, "No! Don't do that! Do this!" It is no different as far as I can see.

Yet consider the contents of Liber 418. From that I would say it is fairly clear that certain aspects of the system do constitute an initiatory process, specifically the work of the aethyrs.

I also find it questionable as to whether being instructed to change his religious practice could be taken as evidence that the work was of no spiritual benefit to Dee. That seems to assume that the C16th mode of pious christianity that he espoused is right on the button, which is not true for many.

Liber 418 is a fair distance from what I would call "real Enochian magic," and the same could be said for the Golden Dawn's variations. The spirits were pretty clear about how to work the system, and the popular modern approaches discard a lot of those instructions and add a host of new ones. They are Enochian-themed, but they aren't Enochian magic proper. If you play baseball with no bat, no bases, and badminton raquets, is it still baseball?

The work described by the spirits was entirely material, and to dismiss it as symbolic is pure cowardice. If you don't believe it possible to do those things in the real and literal sense, the only way to find out is to get the tools and try the system according to the way the spirits say it should be done. It's less than 300 bucks and about two weeks of daily work, that's not a bad price for miracles.

The work described by the spirits was entirely material, and to dismiss it as symbolic is pure cowardice. If you don't believe it possible to do those things in the real and literal sense, the only way to find out is to get the tools and try the system according to the way the spirits say it should be done. It's less than 300 bucks and about two weeks of daily work, that's not a bad price for miracles.

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Because some one has a different perspective, does not make it worse or the cause of this difference in opinion imply a deffiency in the person who percieves it. While you see it as a material system, some see it as a spiritual system, it's the same for the world, see it as you like.

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