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post Aug 12 2005, 05:16 PM
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Does the paradigm revealed through the Necronomicon offer one a "path" for a practitioner to walk that is akin to pursuring The Great Work?

If so:

What is it?
What is happens to a practitioner while engaging it?
What is the results from a practitioner completing it?


I ask that question (and the collaries) because I suspect that more exists with regard to dealing with the various Powers referenced in that book - beyond merely calling up Elder Gods and other sundry entities for the sake of satisfying mundane desires.

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post Jan 25 2007, 01:02 PM
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So I into magick for about one month, and am still doing my exercises to get started with some serious stuff in magick. So i wanna know how advance shuld I get before starting with it. The funny thing is that it's the necronomicon that interested me into magick. So basicly i wanna know what is the purpouse of it and when can i start with it. Oh, yeah is this white, black, gray or anyother kind of magick?


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post Jan 25 2007, 06:59 PM
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Greetings 'spellcaster,

Simons Necronomicon is actually a handbook for priests to gain power over demons and forces which wish to destroy this world. It seems to be a strange place to find the light but nonetheless it is not evil. However some groups such as Satan worshipers and individuals do use it as they see fit. I can not gauge their sucess rate in working a dark path with it as I have nothing to measure. I can say that years ago when I was using it for evil purposes it did bite me on the buttocks quite severely. Simon warns that here are blinds in place to protect the system from abuse and I believe it from my own experience. I have seen a lot of good accomplished through the book. I also know that it did work quite well for me when I was using it for evil purposes. I would advise it for a Left Hand Path as another system might prove less punishing.

It is warned that its not a text for noobs. That you should have a strong occult base before working with it. However I have seen many a noob pick it up and immediately get good results. I would recommend reading it at least three times before trying to work with it. We have a good Necronomicon forum here on SM which should give you all the info you need to work with the system safely and effectively.

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QUOTE(Edunpanna @ Jan 26 2007, 12:59 AM) *
Greetings 'spellcaster,

Simons Necronomicon is actually a handbook for priests to gain power over demons and forces which wish to destroy this world. It seems to be a strange place to find the light but nonetheless it is not evil.

Simon warns that here are blinds in place to protect the system from abuse and I believe it from my own experience. I have seen a lot of good accomplished through the book.

It is warned that its not a text for noobs. That you should have a strong occult base before working with it. However I have seen many a noob pick it up and immediately get good results. I would recommend reading it at least three times before trying to work with it. We have a good Necronomicon forum here on SM which should give you all the info you need to work with the system safely and effectively.

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Greetings Edunpanna,

I have been Practicing Ceremonial Magick for a number of years. My Main Magickal Practices center in the Golden Dawn and Thelemic Magick. I have also in the past year been studying Enochian Magick according to the Golden Dawn tradition taken from Dee's Workings.

I have possessed a copy of the Necronomicon, and the Necronomicon Spell Book for a number of years, yet, was somewhat hesitant to attempt it's workings since it deals with the Gates of the Ancient Ones which are (if I understand correctly) Chaotic Entities whose main goal is to reclaim the Earth and destroy or enslave Mankind. I realize that according to the Necronomicon those called to use the Magick contained within its pages are called to be Guardians of the Gates throughout the ages.

However, I have read of Dr. John dee's Enochian System and even been Initiated into the Zelator Grade of an Order using the Enochian Tablets. My question is this; Are the Outer Gates of the Spirits of the Azonei the same Gates as referred to in Dr. John Dee's Enochian Callings.

Thanks for any assistance you may offer in clarifying this subject for me.
Respectfully,
Helel (Joseph)


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Praxis   Getting Started WIth Necronomicon   Aug 12 2005, 05:16 PM
Merlin   I have been reading the Necronomicon by Simon and ...   Aug 12 2005, 06:45 PM
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Ashnook   1. What is the word for the paradigm revealed by t...   Mar 15 2006, 01:32 AM
smasher666   8. After this lifetime, what happens to the practi...   Apr 20 2006, 09:38 PM
Ashnook   ill be glad to answer these questions tonight my f...   Aug 14 2005, 08:56 AM
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Nero   I have but I am unsure how many on the forum has....   Oct 6 2005, 06:50 AM
nebo82   Greetings Love your site and just Dl ed the necron...   Oct 18 2005, 05:50 PM
Merlin   I am only beginning on the path of the necronomico...   Oct 19 2005, 09:45 PM
chaoscrowley37   I do not beleive the placement of the altar is of ...   Oct 19 2005, 10:14 PM
Merlin   Very good point, I had forgotten that there was no...   Oct 20 2005, 03:12 AM
Nero   I believe the alter is supposed to go in the cent...   Oct 20 2005, 09:43 AM
nebo82   Well thank you all so far. My opinion was outside ...   Oct 20 2005, 12:21 PM
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chaos_mage4   Yeah I'm a newbie to the Nec also lol, but yea...   Jun 27 2006, 07:41 PM
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Mathias   Ashnook, Are you still planning to record yoursel...   Dec 1 2005, 06:54 PM
Ashnook   At some point in the future, I am. Ashnook   Dec 1 2005, 08:16 PM
ominous   I must say that since Ive been reading the nec for...   Dec 14 2005, 09:37 PM
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smasher666   I've been using the Simon Necronomicon for 18 ...   Sep 9 2006, 03:26 AM
Eyes of God   I am not a seasoned magichian, and I was wondering...   Aug 14 2006, 06:39 AM
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smasher666   I am not a seasoned magichian, and I was wondering...   Aug 19 2006, 12:23 AM
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gmcbroom   Has anyone here successfully used the book but sup...   Aug 16 2006, 05:17 PM
smasher666   Has anyone here successfully used the book but sup...   Aug 19 2006, 12:02 AM
Enigmius   What about following the rules but adding other el...   Aug 19 2006, 12:13 AM
smasher666   What about following the rules but adding other el...   Aug 19 2006, 12:18 AM
Enigmius   What about following the rules but adding other e...   Aug 19 2006, 12:44 AM
smasher666   [quote name='smasher666' post='17513' date='Aug 19...   Aug 19 2006, 12:49 AM
Enigmius   Thanks. I really would like to try out the Simon...   Aug 19 2006, 01:12 AM
Penny_Lane   My experience may not be typical, but I had done n...   Aug 27 2006, 04:29 AM
juriaan   I would say, wait until you feel you are ready. Pr...   Aug 31 2006, 04:50 AM
nyechna   Hiya I´m fairly new to working with the Simon Nec...   Sep 1 2006, 08:40 AM
+ Kinjo -   it says that the sword must be struck into the gro...   Sep 1 2006, 01:12 PM
smasher666   Yes, just get a large enough pot full of earth to ...   Sep 1 2006, 08:06 PM
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PureNaturEnergy   Another thing you can make is a small stand with a...   Sep 2 2006, 10:11 AM
bleachXlight   recently i charged and launched a sigil that someo...   Sep 6 2006, 04:49 PM
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bleachXlight   thank you very much i don't know yet maybe i ...   Sep 6 2006, 11:32 PM
squoze   i am new to magick right now i am studying from th...   Sep 8 2006, 06:21 PM
smasher666   i am new to magick right now i am studying from th...   Sep 8 2006, 10:08 PM
PureNaturEnergy   Like frater Smasher said you need to call your Ban...   Sep 11 2006, 04:36 PM
Edunpanna   Greetings 'Joseph' I compare the 7 planet...   Jan 25 2007, 09:35 PM
Penny_Lane   So I into magick for about one month, and am still...   Jan 26 2007, 07:23 AM
FraterMikael   Classifying Magick into black and white categories...   Jan 25 2007, 06:20 PM
Eabatu   The Ancient Ones are UNCREATION as far as I come t...   Jan 25 2007, 10:04 PM
spellcaster   Ok, I hope that you guys can make some stuff clear...   Jan 27 2007, 01:55 PM
gmcbroom   If I may be so bold. I hate to ask it but have yo...   Jan 27 2007, 03:46 PM
spellcaster   Ok, you just did two things: told me everything an...   Jan 27 2007, 05:30 PM
Eabatu   1) For 50 names callings Bandar is not neccessary ...   Jan 27 2007, 07:55 PM
spellcaster   Ok, tnx. But when do I give the sacrifice? before,...   Jan 28 2007, 05:05 AM
nyechna   Hi Spellcaster. If you are just working with the ...   Jan 28 2007, 06:14 AM
spellcaster   Hi Spellcaster. If you are just working with the ...   Jan 28 2007, 08:04 AM
nyechna   are there any banishings that I shuld know or is L...   Jan 28 2007, 09:26 AM
spellcaster   As it says in the Necronomicon, the LBRP won´t wor...   Jan 28 2007, 10:38 AM
gmcbroom   The ones in the Nec. are great but a faster one is...   Jan 28 2007, 02:55 PM
Eabatu   It so happens I happen to have created an effectiv...   Jan 28 2007, 04:32 PM
Edunpanna   It so happens I happen to have created an effectiv...   Jan 28 2007, 04:38 PM
spellcaster   It so happens I happen to have created an effectiv...   Jan 28 2007, 07:34 PM
Eabatu   Well what do you think? Considering you are using ...   Jan 28 2007, 08:24 PM
spellcaster   Ok. Tnx Ebatu, for makeing this clear to me. Shuld...   Jan 29 2007, 01:28 PM
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