QUOTE(Oryx @ Jan 29 2007, 10:24 PM)
In your dealings with the goetia, is there ever a time when something just turns them berserk?
How do they react to insults, disrespect and treating the whole ritual as a laugh?
I realize this topic has the potential to make me unpopular; (IMG:
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Who would do such a thing? Just to get a reaction? I think there was a line in the bible, "Do no temp the lord thy god."
Only entities of the lower levels (i.e. closer to ours) will even react. Entities beyond the scope of ego will simply go away, or more likely will not come in the first place. Some entities will come even though you clearly don't respect their power, because they deal specifically with issues related to the condition you'd have to be in to act like that. Does that make sense? Whether or not the entity in question will even show up, depends largely on what condition your mind is in, and your energy.
Under the optimum conditions, you wouldn't need to goad an entity into doing something, because that would be counter to the state of mind.
If you make innocent mistakes, few entities will punish you in any way. Anger and taking things personally is something more specific to our existence than a universal trait of all consciousness. It's an ego thing.
Some particular entities, like a few of the darker godforms, demand unwavering respect. I was once kicked way from the feet of Enki when I made a move to be 'humble' in order to impress him, so that he would bestow a gift as the two before him had done, and allow me to go on to Marduk's throne, rather than because I really felt humbled. I was commanded to fast for a period of time before coming back to his throne, and contemplate humility.
But, even in that case, as in most cases with dealings toward entities, there was an object lesson in store, not a punishment. There is a difference. In that case, I was commanded to fast for seven days - one day beyond the limits of my body's ability to go without substantial sustanence at the time. The Lesson? My existence isn't that permanent, and I ought to respect the powers that be.
Try to work with good entities, they tend to be more compassionate. Darker ones, or evil entities, those that are out to make a profit of some sort, those ones generally need to be commanded with an iron fist - just as one should rule over the evil in oneself with such authority, but simply allow the good to grow as it will. see? In the end its all inside.
peace