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post Nov 8 2006, 01:37 PM
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Hey guys, well i know like for instance, there is a great probaliliby that vishnu in hinduism is Enki. Ziku is ganesha.

I would like anyone to share if he can knw who of the entities of the Nec incarnated as Jesus.

And of anyone has a valid theory of Who Allah might have been.

Allah could be Marduk and or even one of the 50 names. The 50 names are not only angels but some are gods too.



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post Feb 1 2007, 02:56 PM
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Dying to save the whole of humanity? Who wouldnt? Id gladly be crucified to save 2 or 3 good people never mind the whole human race. Im one man so even 2 men are more important than me so id be a selfish prick not to die if it was either me or them. There are variables to that though. I wouldnt die for mass murdering scums like George Bush or almost any of these dirtbags in power these days.

I dont get the whole story anyway. What would have happened if Jesus didnt die for humanities sins? Also did Jesus even have a choice in the matter? I look at the whole bible story with suspicion at best. Considering we dont even know who wrote the fuckin thing but we blindly follow every single word of it fills me with suspicion. How do we know it wasnt written by the people in power back then as a control mechanism for future generations. For what reasons god only knows. Maybe it was just a group of madmen devoted their lives to writing this crazy story based on the knowledge they had of the world back then.

Also all these religious fanatics never shut up about "Jesus our saviour". Jesus died for someones sins but not mine. He might have been the saviour of our ancestors but not our saviour. Plus in my opinion people of the world today are way bigger sinners than past generations. How come we dont see the divine wrath of god inflicted upon men such as Rumsfeld, Bush, Blair etc. who do more evil in the world than any men in the times of Jesus could do.

Why is it that most of these organized religion claims "This god is the only god", "Only by worshipping this god will you be insured safe passage into heaven, all the other false gods of manifestations of satan and by worshipping them you will go straight to hell". Well if thats the case then were all going to hell. I see sometimes on banners "Jesus is the only hope in the world" and I think to myself, if Jesus is the only hope then there is no hope. Where was Jesus when the US invaded Iraq. Where was he when the Nazis sent all those jews to the concentration camps. What was he doing when all those massacres took place in Rwanda.

The way I see it whether there was or wasnt a Jesus all this speak of battle between good and evil are just symbols or something deeper. Good and evil dont exist. All that exists is one mans will over another and one mans will to stand up and fight to the death to push back oppressors and die laughing.

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post Feb 1 2007, 08:05 PM
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Greetings brother Xochipilli,as you can see from my nick im in no way a christian so i can only reply with the best of my abilities..

"Dying to save the whole of humanity? Who wouldnt? Id gladly be crucified to save 2 or 3 good people never mind the whole human race.There are variables to that though. I wouldnt die for mass murdering scums like George Bush or almost any of these dirtbags in power these days."

-Thats the thing isnt it-JC preached unconditional love-Whether true or not, he believed he was dying for the sins of ALL MEN-no variables-even the very guys who sought to destroy him..


'How do we know it wasnt written by the people in power back then as a control mechanism for future generations. "

-that argument can pretty much be said about all other religious texts including the bhagavad gita and quran,and this coming from a hindu

"Plus in my opinion people of the world today are way bigger sinners than past generations. How come we dont see the divine wrath of god inflicted upon men such as Rumsfeld, Bush, Blair etc. who do more evil in the world than any men in the times of Jesus could do.
Where was Jesus when the US invaded Iraq. Where was he when the Nazis sent all those jews to the concentration camps. What was he doing when all those massacres took place in Rwanda."

-you expect divniity to be your slave or something-they are supposed to be your problem solvers and come down and help stupid guys like ourselves out everytime we do something stupid like destroy ourselves-How many times do you expect poor old JC to sacrifice himself?-furthermore the concept of end times you should look into it-the concpt of kaliyuga and endtimes all speak about this-Go look into it-and why this much hatred towards religion-this very hatred breeds all the violence in humanity

"Good and evil are just symbols or something deeper. Good and evil dont exist. "
- i really like this point of yours
There is this concept of Neti Neti in hinduism where it is believed The Absolute Brahman(not a divinity it means the formless God) can never be decribed properly as we are trying to give form to the formless and trying to give struvture to something that is beyond structure
-the best we can do is to say what God is not ather than what god is-For example God is not good,but he is also not evil
The formless one is beyong Good and evil
-i dont think our minds can ever grasp something which is beyond our level of understanding since we categorize everything(good or bad,hot or ugly blah blah)-i mean can you really grasp what it means by beyond good and beyond evil?

peace...

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mystick   Yhwh in Sumeria   Nov 8 2006, 01:37 PM
TheOneTrueFred   Allah = El = Ea = Enki. As for Jesus, you got me,...   Nov 8 2006, 11:55 PM
Suxur-Mash596   Well considering how Jews and Muslims ahte one ano...   Nov 9 2006, 12:16 AM
smasher666   The ceremonial magician who is sworn to Yahweh may...   Nov 9 2006, 11:31 PM
TheOneTrueFred   Thanks for the insights smasher! I admit that ...   Nov 10 2006, 12:04 AM
smasher666   [Greetings TheOneTrueFred, Zechariah Sitchin wrot...   Nov 11 2006, 11:52 AM
Seraphim   Smasher, Totally agreed there. I've read ...   Nov 11 2006, 03:02 PM
smasher666   Greetings Lugal Nostoro Tehuti, Enlil represents ...   Nov 11 2006, 10:09 PM
Suxur-Mash596   I have to agree w/ Seraphim on this, I really thin...   Nov 12 2006, 12:25 AM
Ashnook   Let us not forget that Marduk only took over Enlil...   Nov 12 2006, 02:30 AM
Seraphim   Greetings, On the identity of the Old Testamen...   Nov 12 2006, 06:12 PM
distillate   In dead names Simon hints that he thinks Allah = N...   Nov 12 2006, 08:44 PM
TwIzTiD   hey whats up everyone I have few questions about ...   Nov 24 2006, 12:25 PM
smasher666   Greetings Twlztid, There seems to be a lot of int...   Nov 24 2006, 01:10 PM
distillate   hey whats up everyone I have few questions about ...   Nov 26 2006, 03:27 PM
smasher666   Greetings Distillate, Staring at the seal and cha...   Nov 26 2006, 04:01 PM
Suxur-Mash596   I have found the spirits tend to WANT to be called...   Nov 26 2006, 10:07 PM
distillate   I have found the spirits tend to WANT to be called...   Nov 27 2006, 12:23 AM
NecroReaper   Greetings fellow occultists. Before any get alarm...   Jan 28 2007, 10:49 PM
Nosotro Tehuti   Greetings, Enki-yhwh, absolutely. There's ...   Jan 29 2007, 04:03 PM
NecroReaper   Greetings, Enki-yhwh, absolutely. There's ...   Jan 30 2007, 12:43 AM
mystick   In other words, he tells us: "When you're...   Jan 30 2007, 12:50 AM
altpath   Good post NecroReaper, I agree with the theory th...   Jan 30 2007, 11:15 PM
NecroReaper   Despite all of that work with the different Godfor...   Jan 31 2007, 02:17 AM
WyrdScience   Nice. Put in that perspective, it sorta explains w...   Jan 31 2007, 07:54 AM
Acid09   Since the bible was created in the 5th century I...   Jan 31 2007, 04:30 PM
Enochian   "To you it has been given to know the mysteri...   Jan 31 2007, 08:17 PM
Xochipilli   Your belief makes way more sense to me than any co...   Feb 1 2007, 12:42 AM
OmNamaShivaya   I dont mean to offend anyone with this post.So i a...   Feb 1 2007, 06:44 AM
Enochian   I agree with you there Om. How many people would d...   Feb 1 2007, 01:44 PM
Acid09   Lets try to stay on topic fellas. I understand tha...   Feb 1 2007, 03:12 PM
Edunpanna   Greetings, I have merged the current thread with ...   Feb 1 2007, 03:24 PM
Ra Hoor Khuit   YHWH is a mechanism not a god :)   Feb 2 2007, 05:01 AM
NecroReaper   Greetings Om. Good and evil are just symbols or s...   Feb 2 2007, 07:58 AM
nyechna   I personally believe that the Nec. fits in much ni...   Feb 3 2007, 11:24 AM
Enochian   Gnostic in the true sense only fits its own catego...   Feb 3 2007, 01:10 PM
nyechna   Gnostic in the true sense only fits its own catego...   Feb 4 2007, 04:13 AM
Acid09   IMO, the Earth is incapable of being good or evil ...   Feb 5 2007, 04:50 PM
Edunpanna   Greetings Acid, :goodposting: I totally agree...   Feb 5 2007, 04:55 PM
Acid09   Thanks.... although I did edit it after you posted...   Feb 5 2007, 05:20 PM
Edunpanna   Greetings'Acid09', Man was created from C...   Feb 5 2007, 05:30 PM

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