Proper Use Of Sigil Magik....? Options

Hi everyone,

Used to post on OF.com but their site isn't working again and this place seems nice. My name was Mchawi/Onyx Stone.

*Waves*

I'm, ''about'' to get into Sigil Magik even though I have been using a variant of it for a while (simply using photos and what not). Was wondering about the use of it in general. Most use it as a tool to bring things into their lives in one way or another so I was up last night reading Carlos Constenadas ''The Art of Dreaming'' and was hit by a series of electrical impulses leading to a thought...

Could i use Sigil Magik to learn how to Astral Travel?... To gain the ability?

Have been meaning to practice but as I smoke weed at night it tends to block my dreams, accompanied with bouts of lazyness I never seem to get around to having a real go at it. Is it feasable to use Sigil Magik to further my practice? Not sure how I'd word it but if a person can use it to bring a new girlfriend into their lives then why not use it to bring in abilities? Not stopping at Astral Travel the series of electrical impulses took me further into thought. I have been meaning to get to grips with the Yi-Ching... further my practice as a CM by learning how to meditate properly which requires a patience I sometimes don't have. The list goes on. Rather than use the art to bring in mundane things why not further oneself instead!? Programming/tuning the self as it were.

Am I just being a smart series of electronics or not? 8)

HTP

DK

This post has been edited by Dark Knight: Feb 2 2007, 12:44 PM

Welcome to SM Dark Knight !!

Agreed with Lucian, sigil magick can certainly be used to help aquire or enhance abilities. I might not suggest starting a sigil-approached Astral Projection operation during sleep, I could see why it wouldn't work.

Personally, I suggest a "normal" start to sigil work, ie. create a sigil, charge/empower it with whatever free energy you have (niether-neither, undifferentiated, shock, exercise . . whatever) during gnosis/meditation, then let it go unthought of until your next charging. In different opportunities: meditate, relax, and start practicing AP (or whatever your intent is).
The problem with starting sigil magick (and particularly AP'ing) in your sleep is that at that point you've already slipped below the "conscious" threshold, therefore trying (initially) to accomplish a basicly conscious-controlled unconscious function without the benefit of the conscious state for the control mechinism (doea that make any sense).
The point is, its hard to not go completely to sleep when you go to sleep. It a fine method after you've established a bit of skill, but initially (at least I found) its just more difficult and more frustrating.

About the weed, yeah . . . I have the same problem with not being able to access my dreams as well, either for the purpose of remembering them or getting lucid
with them.
In general, weed can help with making the astral "visually" more potent (in really small doses), but equally it make maintaining mental control more difficult.
Fortunately I've been on a semi-longterm dry spell . . . so I've been able to do some work (and depth) that I'd been putting off. Lucian's got a good suggestion there . . . just give yourself a few days dry.... as a magickian, you do have that degree of controll over yourself . . . don't you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(this thread may be better in the Chaos forum, unless you really intend this to coordinate with a Ceremonial type path topic)

This post has been edited by palindroem: Feb 2 2007, 03:17 PM