Proper Use Of Sigil Magik....? Options

Hi everyone,

Used to post on OF.com but their site isn't working again and this place seems nice. My name was Mchawi/Onyx Stone.

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I'm, ''about'' to get into Sigil Magik even though I have been using a variant of it for a while (simply using photos and what not). Was wondering about the use of it in general. Most use it as a tool to bring things into their lives in one way or another so I was up last night reading Carlos Constenadas ''The Art of Dreaming'' and was hit by a series of electrical impulses leading to a thought...

Could i use Sigil Magik to learn how to Astral Travel?... To gain the ability?

Have been meaning to practice but as I smoke weed at night it tends to block my dreams, accompanied with bouts of lazyness I never seem to get around to having a real go at it. Is it feasable to use Sigil Magik to further my practice? Not sure how I'd word it but if a person can use it to bring a new girlfriend into their lives then why not use it to bring in abilities? Not stopping at Astral Travel the series of electrical impulses took me further into thought. I have been meaning to get to grips with the Yi-Ching... further my practice as a CM by learning how to meditate properly which requires a patience I sometimes don't have. The list goes on. Rather than use the art to bring in mundane things why not further oneself instead!? Programming/tuning the self as it were.

Am I just being a smart series of electronics or not? 8)

HTP

DK

This post has been edited by Dark Knight: Feb 2 2007, 12:44 PM

Absolutely. Sigil work is most powerful in matters of WILL and SELF in my past experience. That doesn't meant sigils aren't effective beyond the self... they certainly are. But it's a short journey from "implanting" the sigil into your subconscious to controlling the SELF in matters of Astral. In fact, I'd say, it's the ideal way to get into sigil work.

The critical aspect of the work, though, is that you must perform the work as palindroem mentioned, while conscious. The goal is to focus on the intent (will), create with imagination (the sigil creation -- assuming you're creating your own) then achieving gnosis and implant the sigil (complete with the power of imagination and will) in the subconscious, which thrives in the astral. Once you've achieved this, you forget all about the sigil.

In my way of working sigils, anyway, it is important to entirely forget the sigil after you've achieved gnosis. You burn the sigil, flush it, don't place it under your pillow (which will remind you of it!)... rush to the TV, light up, play a video game, have sex, do anything to immediately FORGET the sigil, because the conscious mind has a knack of interfering with sigils. Too much contemplation and logic and visualizing (after the fact) will hamper a sigil's effectiveness.

That is unless you're actually working with talismans -- which you keep with you. A taslisman is another option for you. But a sigil you forget and destroy if it is to be effective. Here's how I define the difference... sigils are created by the creative and will and conscious mind, then migrated to the subconscious, then forgotten by the conscious mind (which can severely INTERFERE with the effectiveness of the sigil if it's constantly meditating on it. In fact, it rarely will work at all if you're thinking about it all the time.

On the other hand, in talismanic work, at least in my work, you don't forget it, (quite the opposite.) It's just semantics, probably, but sigils are generally migrated and forgotten, talismans and amulets have DUAL existence in the physical and the astral (but more substance in the astral) and are not forgotten -- they are empowered, charged, and constantly "remembered" to have effectiveness (but since the conscious mind is relatively weak, versus the subconscious, I find talismans relatively less effective -- that may just be me.

Happy journeys!