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post Jan 25 2007, 04:35 PM
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Well . . . lets start this new forum off with an obvious.
What do people consider to be Left Hand Path?

Of course, this question isn't intending or expecting everyone (or anyone) to agree on a definition . . . or even to be a thread building to a consensus.
Only as a way of describing the varieties of the concept - LHP

I'm personally not so fond of the Blavaskian use of LHP as describing a state of immorality (spiritually), nor do I find Crowley's idea that is the failed adept acceptable.

For me, in a very general . . . its the process of developing the self (spiritually and materially) rather then sacrificing or dissolving the self.
Being fully and singly responsible for oneself and ones actions.
Being entitled to everything one can be (materially and spiritually)
And that the world around each of us (phenomonally and spiritually) is designed for personal integration and application.
Many aspects of the above are best presented and developed through acts of Love, alturism and compassion. As well, all require self-confidence, a distinct level of self-worth, and a strongly developing self-knowledge.

anyway . . . others thoughts . . ?

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post Jan 26 2007, 03:02 AM
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Before I begin, I must state that the below are my personal beleifs of my own path, which is a "version", if you will, of the LHP, and is not to be taken as the sole definition what the LHP is, but only an example.

The left hand path is oft misunderstood by many, mostly due to the dark gloom religion has gilded it with. The LHP has been nullified as malevolent and imprudent to the soul's growth, merely due to the fear of any practitioner attending to find the secrets inherent.

In the LHP, we are taught that the Universe is not black and white, but very grey matter, that there is not right or wrong, that we are the masters not the gods; albeit we respect them, but we do not worship them, for we need not reverate ones that we can live without, times have changed, it's the aeon of Deitrus - Lucifer Rising, man has become as God (on earth).

Many people confuse the concept of being a "God", I disagree with what Satanists call the concept of "becoming as God", for this is oft a shallow concept which does not help the spirit truly grow. To feel and think as a God would mean to cease growth, but to act and feel as a "no one" means to grow, for a God has no space to grow but a child who knows nothing has the universe to learn. Satanism is not exactly like other LHP belief systems - such as mine.

My Beliefs:

My beliefs are oft scoffed at by the big 666, but I don't believe that seeking godhood is a very good process of growth; However, I do believe that nullifying the fear factor is. For fear is what keeps us from reaching out to the darkness and finding the hidden gold, that all else have been deprived of.

What is a "God" to me?

A God, to me, is a being who has passed a process of incarnation which he/she is not to return to, and "wills" votively, to pass on, or diligently teach his lower "children", if you will. A God, to me, cannot possibly be selfish, for a God in Greek terms means "aider to mankind", Gods are for the benevolence of their species or "children". You "can't" be a god in this world, that is the utmost rediculous claim ever!, a God makes changes, a God seeks to change his "breed", his kind, for the better, a God cannot possibly be selfish, for that is not power. A God also cannot strive for power and power alone, for power isn't the fulfillment of the self, nor survival after a while, but the guidance of the others, and the overall change and creation of a new aeon, dependance in a sense.

My religious beleifs?

My personal beliefs suggest that we are all capable of godhood in the future, after death, but not in this world, for it would definately be futile. I believe that the primeval gods were our ancestors, and we are derived from one or the other, thus we feel a closeness to one or the other - either a patron or matron, or both; that we are of their "essence". For instance, in a throng of 40 people, 2 may be descendants of a God, who his/herself is a descendant of Tiamat (created by Tiamat), thus, Tiamat would be the true primeval essence of the species, whilst another 2 of the throng would be descendants of... o lets say Enki, and so forth. However, I do believe that all gods and souls, spirits, energies coalesce and make one being - the Creator, we are the creator.

My beleifs about the "Creator"?

The Creator, as stated above, is the coalescence of all beings in one, we are to the creator as blood as blood is to us - as above so bellow. I also believe that the Cosmos has a soul of its own, and that Light and Dark are two corresponding aspects of the creator, and one cannot survive without the other, just as love cannot survive with out hate - all aspects are essential for the ultimate cultivation and growth of man, thus God itself. God is not male or female, but both, God is not Dark or Light, but both, God is not good or evil, for good and evil are creations of man, the Creator is all and every, and the Creator is in constant vie with itself, for only in constant vie does the Creator, thus we, grow. Peace does not induce growth, vie and fraying do, argument does, battles do, in all essence, dark and light as well as hate and love and all other yin-yang are why we are here, and why we are not as primal as we were.

The moment we begun to fight, we begin to learn, the moment of war is the time of true growth, Nirvana is an ignorant dream, here's my definition of Nirvana from another post.

My beliefs of the afterlife and Nirvana?

Well I believe that we are the only ones who can bring our own happiness; be it out of love for others, out of self love, or whatever. I believe that we are who we choose to become, and when we progress and learn of ourselves, we learn how to please ourselves accordingly, thus "heaven" to us is a very personal route.

I do not believe in nirvana at all. Infact I believe it to be impossible and against the laws of existance. What would life mean if there has to be an ending? Nirvana, primarily as stated in the Christian Bible and in the Islam Quran to me is more like a hell, for to me, happiness is to achieve that which I strive for, and to progress, and to gain knowledge of myself and my surroundings, endlessly.

Nirvana (heaven in the biblical sense) to me would be hell, as all the reasons why I would want to enjoy life would be lost; it would quickly become trite to me.

I want to face challenges, I want to pursue goals and try my best to achieve them, I want to fail so that I can try again...

infact If I had a choice to be perfect I'd fervently deny it!

Not knowing causes us to want to know, and that is what makes us human, that desirous to know is what makes us conscious, being conscious to me is unique, to me that's "divine", and to have to submit to a filthy nirvana-type heaven would be depriving me of my own godliness I so cherish.


My beleifs on Reincarnation?

I believe we are here to learn and progress from one plane to the next, and we begin as trees, then pass on to animals, than to more dominant species of animals, and, finally humans, which grow from incarnate to incarnate.

This led me to my beliefs of the werekin.

Werekin?

As all of you should know, the werekin are humans with two spiritual bodies: one of a human, and another of an animal, which is usually the bear or wolf, for they are most sacred and closest to man. Why these werekin are so close to their animals, I believe, is because they are new as human incarnates, and need their spiritual animals to aid them on their path to becoming human; and their spiritual animals are on their ways to becoming humans, so it works hand in hand.

Shapeshifting is very real, and can be learned and achieved by all, even those who are not in the incarnate as werekin, and have passed this stage.


My beliefs on the Cosmos?

To elucidate further on my Dark/Light beleifs, I suggest we take the cosmos into account here, the Causal, which is defined by Order, and the Acausal, which is defined by disorder.

Doing much research on the two, I realized how essential they are to our existance, and how well they define the primal charasteristics of light and dark. They cannot clash, for they are completely of different energies. They have their denizons as well, and their Gods, both sides, which are in constant fray. Now, we, are composed of both Acausal and Causal matter, mostly Causal though, as we live in a Causal universe, with cause and effect, past and future, order, light, etc. but there are those of us who are drawn to the "Darkness", and are of Acausalic energy as our dominant. We are the creation of the Gods of the Acausal, and we are sent here for our personal growths just as reincarnation is essential for spiritual growth for all.

We live in a Causal dimension and world, and he is "masculine", more materialistic, and associated with order, associated with the masculine traits of our Creator, his lighter half. Most denizons of this world are also Causal, and light, spiritually, for they are of the Causal gods, associated with order and have found themselves oft well nestled in this world with the rest, for they are the majority. Those of the Acausal, like me, and few others, are of more feminine energy, we are also darker, by preeminent definition, thus we are also the minority here. I can go into this more later, as it relies heavily on my philosophy, and won't help cultivate this thread on the LHP.

I've created a chart on Word on our heirarchies; my beliefs.

I couldn't get it to come up, but it should be attached as a Pdf.

*I hope mods don't mind, I made tables and added colours to the chart, which was a tedious task, I couldn't get it to appear like that.


About the PDF:
Just for less confusion, I want to state that the numbers only signify which gods/godesses or aspects the families are, just as done in animism with animal kin.

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post Feb 7 2007, 02:06 PM
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This is a very fine post and the LHP may be summed up perfectly

QUOTE(DeathStalker @ Jan 26 2007, 04:02 AM) *
- as above so bellow...


Quite so. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angel.gif)

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palindroem   What Is Lhp   Jan 25 2007, 04:35 PM
Seraphim   Greetings, Very much agreed Palindrome. Althou...   Jan 25 2007, 04:49 PM
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