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Imperial Arts |
Feb 11 2007, 12:14 PM
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"...learn first what is Work! and THE GREAT WORK is not so far beyond!" -The Book of Lies, Ch. 52
Where did you get the idea that spirituality is somehow independent or transcendent of work, family, children, and the rest of your "material" life?
If you can be excited to go to work each day, and return home with a sense of fulfillment, is that not the veritable Argent Elixir? If you have a wife with whom you can share your life, and children in whom you feel pride, is it not the Red Stone?
Selfish spirituality can be far more destructive than any amount of materialism. This is not to call you selfish, but to say that you do not need to escape the mundane and retreat into your internal world,. You might find it more fulfilling and beneficial to adapt your personal genius toward making the most of what you already possess and what you can gain through that.
Genuine spiritual progress can be observed by real change in your life and outlook, and there is no special technique to do that. It is all too often that people seeking spirituality become socially distant, withdrawn from reason, and generally less-effective in all their choices, as a result of mistaking visionary or mystical experience for legitmate spiritual rewards.
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Aequitas |
Feb 11 2007, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(Imperial Arts @ Feb 11 2007, 01:14 PM) "...learn first what is Work! and THE GREAT WORK is not so far beyond!" -The Book of Lies, Ch. 52
Where did you get the idea that spirituality is somehow independent or transcendent of work, family, children, and the rest of your "material" life?
If you can be excited to go to work each day, and return home with a sense of fulfillment, is that not the veritable Argent Elixir? If you have a wife with whom you can share your life, and children in whom you feel pride, is it not the Red Stone?
Selfish spirituality can be far more destructive than any amount of materialism. This is not to call you selfish, but to say that you do not need to escape the mundane and retreat into your internal world,. You might find it more fulfilling and beneficial to adapt your personal genius toward making the most of what you already possess and what you can gain through that.
Genuine spiritual progress can be observed by real change in your life and outlook, and there is no special technique to do that. It is all too often that people seeking spirituality become socially distant, withdrawn from reason, and generally less-effective in all their choices, as a result of mistaking visionary or mystical experience for legitmate spiritual rewards. i feel that path has been taking previously and i must find a different one. dont know why, just do. thanks anyway
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Vagrant Dreamer |
Feb 11 2007, 04:51 PM
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While there are probably few devout monastics who would shy away from responsibility in the material world, it is true that some people do not feel the call to have family, to live in the material world, etc. There is such a thing as monastic calling. While it is not to be taken up lightly, and it certainly is not an easy path, perhaps maybe even more difficult than simply living a 'mundane' life, if any life can be called mundane.
However, Imperial is right to say that there is a difference between spiritual calling and escapism. In some traditions, one does not become monastic until the age of forty, as one must be grounded in the world we are born into for a purpose before reaching up into the higher spiritual world.
Everyone's path is individual, ultimately. Some possess the intention in life to work in the world, to spread positive energy to those they work with, to family members, etc.; others possess the intention to release the material world all together and move on. Still others are somewhere inbetween, and for those it is often clarifying to spend some months, even years, away from the world and in meditation, only to realize that their path does indeed include a material life, whatever that then entails.
It is all about perspective and attitude, and whatever path you choose, just agreeing with yourself that you wish to have a positive outlook on all experience, that you wish to evolve spiritually, that you accept yourself and your situation as it is, will have a profound impact on who you are and allow you to become detached from the beliefs and assumptions about who or what you must become in order to have happiness in life. Then instead of being pulled in one direction or another because of those attachments, you can move yourself however you want - true freedom to evolve in the direction that your Intention is already gearing you towards.
peace
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The world is complicated - that which makes it up is elegantly simplistic, but infinitely versatile.
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Aequitas How Can I Evolve Feb 10 2007, 05:25 PM Vagrant Dreamer People will have lots to say about this. But, my a... Feb 10 2007, 07:07 PM Imperial Arts Taking up Tai Chi, meditation etc.. will not in it... Feb 10 2007, 07:24 PM Vagrant Dreamer I would caution against equating tai chi with medi... Feb 10 2007, 08:27 PM Aequitas First i want to thank you for your fast responding... Feb 10 2007, 09:32 PM esoterica it has been the goal of all connected to the ... Feb 11 2007, 08:08 AM esoterica to include the spiritual development in the mundan... Feb 11 2007, 05:32 PM Aequitas Now im looking to become more in contact with the ... Feb 11 2007, 07:47 PM Vagrant Dreamer Any method is appropriate. Some chant, some dance,... Feb 11 2007, 11:40 PM esoterica try this:
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