Frustrated With Lbrp Progress... Have You Ever Seen "visions" After Doing It? Options

It's been doing it for about a year, during some periods every day... and I just can't get any juice out of it.

It started well enough, but after a few months of daily practice, I didn't seem to have any results. I read Kraigs' modern magic book and he says it is likely you'll start seeing "visions" of things, he says he saw a snake disappear into the floor or something.

I'm no where near that point, if indeed I can get to such a point. I know the point of magick is NOT to have little tricks and visions but I feel bad that I cannot sense any true progress. I expected I would at least have gradual signs or feelings that I was advancing, even if just in baby steps.

Part of my problem may be that I rarely vibrate the names aloud, and when I do, I tend to feel a bit silly. My room has no curtains on the windows and there IS a constant sense of paranoia, at most times of day. I don't know. I dont plan on giving up but I wanted to know other people's sensations of "progress."

Part of my problem may be that I rarely vibrate the names aloud, and when I do, I tend to feel a bit silly. My room has no curtains on the windows and there IS a constant sense of paranoia, at most times of day. I don't know. I dont plan on giving up but I wanted to know other people's sensations of "progress."

Hmm. Thats probably the reason you feel as if your progress is stunted. Perhaps pick a time to practice when you feel that there are less onlookers. If you are not comfortable you will find it very hard to focus your will and intent, and this makes mastery of any ritual very difficult. Feelings of silliness or embarrassment are like bonds(akin the Hindu pasas) that hold you to the physical planes. These emotions are manifestations of your Ego and should be completely eradicated from your Magical practice.

Though "visions" are not essential in the LBRP you should be at least getting a sense of establishing holy space and purity. I've occasionally "seen" the astral traces of the pentagrams and more recently the archangels...for me these appear during the climax:: "about me flame the pentagrams...". Never once have I ever actually seen anything manifest in the physical during this practice; what I "see" are more like translucent impressions akin to the blurry doubles of people and things one sees after too much to drink. I do not place any importance on these glimpses into the astral, rather it is the feeling that I am now the center of my universe and am standing on hallow ground that defines my practice. The more sacred the space feels, the more I've "progressed"...if that makes any sense.

In my opinion vibrating the divine names is among the most important elements of the ritual. You don't have to shout them, but make them resonate within you as you exhale, you'll know you did it properly when you feel the energy course through your body and out your hands literally "vibrating" the space in front of you. I find a useful analogy to the bass at a rock concert, you may not hear it as strongly as you feel it... seriously, put on some music with deep bass and feel how your skin and the air around you vibrates with each beat. This is the sensation you should get when vibrating the divine names, even if done silently with the "greater voice" you should still feel this vibration of space-time. When done properly, the vibration of the divine names in the four cardinal directions will result in you coursing with magical energy and experiencing a prevailing sensation of purity. (Edit: I just read Vagrant Dreamers post, and wanted to add that he masterfully explains the vibrations of the divine names...we seem to be in agreement as to the importance of this element in the ritual)

Most importantly, don't give up. A sign of your "progress" will arise when least expected.

This post has been edited by Faustopheles: Feb 15 2007, 02:19 PM