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 Frustrated With Lbrp Progress... Have You Ever Seen "visions" After Doing It?
Sparsespartana
post Feb 15 2007, 01:14 PM
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It's been doing it for about a year, during some periods every day... and I just can't get any juice out of it.

It started well enough, but after a few months of daily practice, I didn't seem to have any results. I read Kraigs' modern magic book and he says it is likely you'll start seeing "visions" of things, he says he saw a snake disappear into the floor or something.

I'm no where near that point, if indeed I can get to such a point. I know the point of magick is NOT to have little tricks and visions but I feel bad that I cannot sense any true progress. I expected I would at least have gradual signs or feelings that I was advancing, even if just in baby steps.

Part of my problem may be that I rarely vibrate the names aloud, and when I do, I tend to feel a bit silly. My room has no curtains on the windows and there IS a constant sense of paranoia, at most times of day. I don't know. I dont plan on giving up but I wanted to know other people's sensations of "progress."

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post Feb 15 2007, 09:54 PM
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Thanks everyone for the considerate responses.

Here's a question about technique: all the books I've read say that the words should be vibrated AS you throw your hands out into the Enterer sign. That gets me stumped because I find it hard to vibrate simultaneously as thrusting. So you are saying to vibrate then thrust, as the end of the vibration?

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post Feb 15 2007, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(Sparsespartana @ Feb 15 2007, 10:54 PM) *
Thanks everyone for the considerate responses.

Here's a question about technique: all the books I've read say that the words should be vibrated AS you throw your hands out into the Enterer sign. That gets me stumped because I find it hard to vibrate simultaneously as thrusting. So you are saying to vibrate then thrust, as the end of the vibration?


The Sign of the Enterer is an active position also called "The Step of the Avenger" and relates to the God-form of Martial Horus as an attacke. It is the ideal posture for one to project force and power outward.

In my practice I vibrate as I thrust. The vibration is not only vocal, but becomes amplified and directed via the "tuning-fork" of my body in this position.

I found it easier to focus on starting the vibrations as I thrust...so for example, in the East I shoot my arms forward while saying "Yooooodddde" and continue the vibration of the divine name (HeeeeehVvvaaaaawwwwHeeeeeeeh) while firmly in the position. Other Magicians may have different methods.

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post Feb 16 2007, 05:20 AM
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Tend to have the same problem myself, not being able to really go at it because family is about or my brother is in the room next door. Tad bit annoying transending space and time and being disturbed by a call for dinner. Still, have had the best result when my brother and uncle were in the other room thumping music through the wall, there was a lot of negativity around so I did the LBRP as I called on the Angels toward the end the whole place went silent music went off and they had a pause in their conversation.

When I first started out I was in bed afterwards and had a ''vision'' of someone/something banging on a sphere around me demanding that I inscribed some writing into the gate and let him in. Scared the living something out of me but it was odd feeling an invisible barrier as he/it was trying to get in. Was really intresting, couldn't cancel it out as being paranoia or general sleepyness as I could remember the writing and it was something totally new to me. In another case I invoked Raphel (was using the hebrew version at the time) and wanted to know what the Archs looked like... again after practice I had a half dream of someone laughing at me saying, ''He wants to know what we look like'' while changing his appreance mockingly.

Otherwise I have no need to see snakes and other astral entities, they definatly pay attention while a person practices, have taken to using Fraters, ''I now dismiss all spirits and energies'' at the end of my practice and have noticed a diffrence in the atmosphere around me but I find that practicing with expectance in mind mundanes the effect of the ritual. Maybe you need to re-evaluate why you want to be a magician as well as find some space that isn't so bombarded with thought patterns and peeping toms.

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