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Oryx
post Jan 29 2007, 09:24 PM
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In your dealings with the goetia, is there ever a time when something just turns them berserk?
How do they react to insults, disrespect and treating the whole ritual as a laugh?

I realize this topic has the potential to make me unpopular; (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tomato.gif) but if I ever get the chance to summon a goetic spirit, I don't want to screw anything up by accedentally insulting it.

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post Feb 17 2007, 10:43 AM
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Although attacking is not condoned, I see Sparkle's approach. even if she was not as eloquent as the rest of us does NOT give reason to discount her opinion. Even the heart of a child can overcome many things, and such simple judgment, in her case, I have found to be the most sound.

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I believe some people here are asking for a Death wish. Pissing these Gods off is Not a wise thing to do. On top of that using the clavicle, and all the the things in the grimoires that abuses them.


Very true. Study some of the entities OUTSIDE of the grimoire. After studying, send a sentry servitor over to observe the entity. Have it bring back the data, study it, take it in, and then discern from there what is the best course of action to take.

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Considering all the unusual things people do to summon spirits, it is almost guaranteed that at least some of it is amusing to them.
Noted.

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Foras was completely enraged at having been called at all, and stated that "if it were not for the names," he would do nothing at all,

Ok. You should have learned at that point to understand this isn't the type of entity to do this to. Coercement is NOT -good-.
Even Foras has a degree of sentience. He left you alone until now (if I am wrong about that, please correct me!), and youc all him out of the blue and ask him for sh1t? That takes more than Maddox's balls to pull off.
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so I immediately requested 600 years of healthy mortal life. This made it even more upset.
Ya think? You did something it didn't like, and then you have the audacity to request 600 years of healthy mortal life? Do you even KNOW what that would entail? Did you meditate on having it? What would happen in ALL situations? 600 years?? C'mon! Don't you have something more important to wish for, like maybe commanding the inspiration for a free energy resource or a disease cure for ebola or hantavirus? Hey, why not even say a panacea for cancer! Resuming...
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Eventually I got it to agree to cure a nasty fungal infection (not mine, but this occurred *instantly*) and a few other things that have time and again saved my life from severe injury.
I'm surprised it even did that.

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Naphula mocked my "weak chain," and suggested that I am "desperate for a tailor." Beleth called me a fool outright. Purson practically spat at me for having the gall to sit on the ground while receiving audience.

Why seek the powers of such entities by enslaving them? Why even bother to associate??
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Amon, one of the most terrifying of the apparitions to date, gave the appearance of setting things on fire and was not the only one of them to describe how I ought to be killed and/or tortured for having the audacity to constrain their service.
Yeah, actually i sympathize. Spiritual diplomacy goes a long way. Just ask the chinese spiritual bureacracy!

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On the other hand, some of the spirits had a tremendous amount of levity, and a few were almost comical.
Believable, noted, and whats more, I know that much at the least.

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These are powerful spirits and IMO ought to be received as dignitaries even if subjugated ones.
He learns!

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Requesting things that stretch the limits of their office are fine, even if they are upset by it (maybe they're lazy?),
After insulting them that much in mind and heart its no wonder they dont like to work with you.
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but if they assent to doing something outside their office they are also not bound to do it correctly.
or happily
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Be on guard that you stick to the system parameters.
Or meditate on the ACT of even summoning them, and see if it is right.

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When things look grim, you have three options: raise the ring, lay your courage, or strike up the coals and conjure the fire. if all else fails, or if something odd occurs like uncontrollable vomiting, give license to depart. If you use a sword, the only function it serves is to mark the triangle and to dangle the box over the colas, don't get worried about having to fight brontosaurs when calling an angry Astaroth.
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Sparkles had a right to sympathize with their cause, and I in turn with her.

Forget it. Forget my post. Leave it up here, but voluntarily ignore it from eyesight. I wanted to say my piece.


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Oryx   What Would It Take To Piss Off An Entity?   Jan 29 2007, 09:24 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   In your dealings with the goetia, is there ever a ...   Jan 29 2007, 09:48 PM
bym   Greetings! (the sound of a very old phonograp...   Jan 29 2007, 10:07 PM
Imperial Arts   In your dealings with the goetia, is there ever a ...   Jan 30 2007, 12:37 AM
Edunpanna   Greetings 'Imperial Arts, :goodposting: :fu...   Jan 30 2007, 01:33 AM
NecroReaper   Usually, when the more intelligent folks, entities...   Jan 30 2007, 03:11 AM
Edunpanna   How to piss off a demon. 1. Hold it down and fart...   Jan 30 2007, 01:16 PM
dynajam   5. Throw Holy Water at it. 8. As soon as it shows...   Jan 30 2007, 03:17 PM
altpath   :D Your post really did make me laugh out loud. Hi...   Jan 30 2007, 11:27 PM
Sparkles   Shaking My Head I believe some people here are...   Feb 17 2007, 05:00 AM
Sparkles   How is that a personal attack? All I did was ag...   Feb 17 2007, 09:19 AM
Nero   How is that a personal attack? Maybe I took your ...   Feb 17 2007, 11:26 AM
altpath   sparkles, these are not Gods. They are demonized ...   Feb 17 2007, 10:37 AM
Sparkles   altpath It doesn't matter what version of ...   Feb 17 2007, 10:58 AM
Darkmage   I can't say I've ever really pissed off an...   Feb 17 2007, 11:10 AM
WyrdScience   Some tend to be broad and can encompass many thin...   Feb 18 2007, 11:02 AM
Sparkles   I don't see my opinion being like a butt hole....   Feb 18 2007, 04:56 PM
Imperial Arts   If you want to "leave things the hell alone,...   Feb 18 2007, 07:04 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   The entities in these grimoires are, in my opinion...   Feb 18 2007, 10:43 PM
Sparkles   :nonono: That's not advisbale either to d...   Feb 18 2007, 10:26 PM
Sparkles   As far as terrorists/criminals goes, that's an...   Feb 18 2007, 10:46 PM
Noohn-Kehk   Your energy's so familiar Sparkles..............   Feb 19 2007, 10:36 PM
Petrus   In your dealings with the goetia, is there ever a...   Sep 28 2008, 06:45 PM
altpath   I would agree with that post if it wasn't for ...   Sep 29 2008, 05:35 PM
Petrus   About the rest of the post, that's a good con...   Sep 29 2008, 08:20 PM

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