Fate, or destiny, whatever Options

Hey all!

I was just wondering how of you believe in fate, meaning that your lifes course is already written for you?

and if you believe in such a thing, can your fate be changed somehow? can you neglect your fate or our you controlled by forces outside your control?

My personal view (at the moment, it will probably change after this discussion) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif) is that people have certain things they are good at and certain things they are not, but I do not actually believe in fate at this time as don't like the idea of not being in control. I guess whether your LHP or RHP has a lot to do with it.

Discuss (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The multiverse was recently proven by a Canadian physicist. (Well, more or less -- mathematically, he determined the only reason why gravity was disproportionate in relative strength to energy and matter was that gravity wells were shared across a vast multiverse (very much as imagined by Michael Moorcock)). What's that got to do with fate? Well, quantum physics theorizes (and more or less mathematically can come close to proving) that time is circular. (I'll tie these thoughts together, promise).

So, whether you call it fate, destiny, or circular time (where everything's already happened, except, as with curved space versus warping linearly through space, we can only perceive certain moments of time -- a linear stream.) So, it's not fate, as much as -- well, it already happened. Mind boggling. But, likely, according to leading scientists.

Similarly, what we call the astral and the other planes, sephiroth, etc... well, they are the co-existing multiverse, sharing gravity, energy and matter with our plane -- but interestingly, gravity is shared more intensely than energy which is shared more intensely than matter ... hence, we perceive THIS plane, and only by developing our skills can we perceive much else int he multiverse. In the nearest co-existing plane, energy is relatively more dense than matter, and on, and on until it's all energy and no matter, then all gravity and no energy.... etc...

Which makes magick practitioners very enlightened beings. We're manipulating not only space, the multiverse, but also time.

Just thought I'd muddy the conversation with some science (or, rather, bleeding edge theories that are relatively well founded in fact). So, circular time. Fate. Doesn't matter. It's a reality.

So, astral, other dimension, it's real too. Not doubt about it.

But what about free will? Because we can mostly only perceive in linear fashion, and mostly in the matter-heavy plane, we have, in a sense, free will. Can we change destiny, fate or what's already happened? Certainly. Paradoxes, as theorized in Quantum Physics, are quite possible. Time can change. What's happened can be altered, but it changes EVERYTHING ELSE. Change is Magick. Magick is the act of exerting WILL and change. Haven't we always held "as above, so below" or "what happens in the astral, happens here?" Now there is some support for this beyond our own experiential data. Hence, we're basically changing time and space each and every time we practice Magick.

Oh, I ramble...

Oh, I ramble...

I think time is flat, but goes in all directions.

Space is curved only because it is convenient, and if we did no think about it, space would not be there.

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